Mannn, I always give Shorty credit for creating CHUTNEY SOCA since it is claimed that his SOKAH is a combination of calypso and Indian rhythms.Seawell after all the threads that have been created regarding this topic I am absolutely certain that you have a good feel for the answers that each thread would eventually generate.
I have discussed this topic with you and VP before and I have decided not to get involved in the revolving door. What you said about "If Grant was a Trini" is true but at the same time you will not get a Trini to accept his claim to 'creating' soca. I don't.... did he contribute... yes I believe that he did as well as many others. We are aware that the music is changing and has done so from the very start. I don't wish to get embroiled in what is happening all over again. However, I do believe that it all started with Shorty but it continued to change with Maestro, Shadow, Wellington, Rose and so many others.
I believe the problem is that people like VP don't want to give Shorty any recognition whatever. That is a major problem... when he named the genre and explained what Soca it to the World and guess what.... NOBODY Complained at the time that he was full of it... NO Musician, No Singer ... NOBODY.... and remember at that time Soca (the name and the music called Soca) was all about Trinidad! The information in brackets was put there to avoid those claiming similar sounding music from the rest of the region - even thought they did not choose to give it a name.
Soca today is not the same... Period! The music called Soca is nothing like the Soca of the early time. We are all aware of that fact. All I have to say is it all started with Shorty... many others added to the music that he started and named and explained. I will give credit to all others who added to the music... I really don't care about that but please acknowledge where it all started even if you don't think Indrani sounded anything like Endless Vibrations... that is where the idea and the music evolved... what is so difficult to accept about that.
The man went so far as to give us Vibrations Groove to explain what Soca is all about - who else did something similar to that?
The man is dead and after his death we have all this bacchanal! This is a sad day for Caribbean people... VP wants to credit America for the start of Soca anybody except a Trini.... Lord will it ever end?!?!
I FRANKLY DO NOT KNOW HOW THE PHUCK INDIAN RHYTHMS became part of the SOUL OF CALYPSO, but I guess you KNUCKLEHEADS from TRINIDAD thinks that Shorty's SPONTANEOUS RAMBLINGS MAKE SENSE.
That said; you KNUCKLEHEADS from Trinidad can defend and support Shorty's SOKAH (calypso and Indian rhythms) and I will DEFEND and SUPPORT SOCA (SOUL and CALYPSO), because that is the ESSENCE and CENTRAL SOUND I HEAR and FEEL in the music from the 70's onward.
YUHHHHH SEEEEEE MEEEEEEE