Light Girls

NikkiGiovanni

Warrior Queen
So i just finished watching Light Girls...not sure how i feel about it....some things that were said did resonate with me though...hearing the guys say that light skinned women were the trophy that they wanted, and implying that dark skinned girls are eager to please....some men even admitted that light skin women give them a hard time....

Its ironic that they know/feel that even though light skinned chicks give them a hard time, they put up with it because they feel they are trophy women....which kinda explains Love and Hip Hop and Basketball Wives, etc....men just love those crazy, delusional, neurotic light skinned women that will put them through hell, just so they can have a trophy.

I also felt that the light skinned women were somehow made to seem tragic, like the tragic mulatto syndrome all over again...where u can actually empathize with them because they are stuck between worlds. Whereas in Dark Girls, we are just victims. Victims worthy of pity only...its like light skinned women can get sympathy and empathy because they went all psychological and historical with it....they didnt do that in Dark Girls (not that i recall anyway,..gonna have to watch again)....but somehow dark girls only get pity....who knows, maybe i am saying that because I'm dark skinned...but thats how it came across to me.
 

NikkiGiovanni

Warrior Queen
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Mrs. Campbell

Girl Crush
So i just finished watching Light Girls...not sure how i feel about it....some things that were said did resonate with me though...hearing the guys say that light skinned women were the trophy that they wanted, and implying that dark skinned girls are eager to please....some men even admitted that light skin women give them a hard time....

Its ironic that they know/feel that even though light skinned chicks give them a hard time, they put up with it because they feel they are trophy women....which kinda explains Love and Hip Hop and Basketball Wives, etc....men just love those crazy, delusional, neurotic light skinned women that will put them through hell, just so they can have a trophy.

I also felt that the light skinned women were somehow made to seem tragic, like the tragic mulatto syndrome all over again...where u can actually empathize with them because they are stuck between worlds. Whereas in Dark Girls, we are just victims. Victims worthy of pity only...its like light skinned women can get sympathy and empathy because they went all psychological and historical with it....they didnt do that in Dark Girls (not that i recall anyway,..gonna have to watch again)....but somehow dark girls only get pity....who knows, maybe i am saying that because I'm dark skinned...but thats how it came across to me.
What stuck out for me was all the backlash on social media. It bothered me that people were quick to dismiss their pain and experiences. How can you dismiss being chased home and or beaten up practically every day because someone perceives you as "thinking you're cute", when you haven't even opened your mouth. Or being put on pedestals by family members...which results in creating discourse and strife between siblings. Or constantly having to prove how "down" you are. Made me think of the film "Imitation of Life". First time I saw it, I hated Mary Jane. The second time around, I felt sorry for her. Being admired and fawned over by blacks, but not truly accepted. Yet passing as white, but holding your breath at every turn that nobody finds out you're black...like the guy did in the film.


In a nutshell, I don't think we should get into a pain pissing contest. IMO, we should acknowledge each other and go from there.

DISCLAIMER - I'm not dark, nor am I light skinned.
 

LIONESS onda RISE

Registered User
What stuck out for me was all the backlash on social media. It bothered me that people were quick to dismiss their pain and experiences. How can you dismiss being chased home and or beaten up practically every day because someone perceives you as "thinking you're cute", when you haven't even opened your mouth. Or being put on pedestals by family members...which results in creating discourse and strife between siblings. Or constantly having to prove how "down" you are. Made me think of the film "Imitation of Life". First time I saw it, I hated Mary Jane. The second time around, I felt sorry for her. Being admired and fawned over by blacks, but not truly accepted. Yet passing as white, but holding your breath at every turn that nobody finds out you're black...like the guy did in the film.


In a nutshell, I don't think we should get into a pain pissing contest. IMO, we should acknowledge each other and go from there.

DISCLAIMER - I'm not dark, nor am I light skinned.
Wow!... I love u sooooo much! U never watched dark girls, had even less interest in light girls..but I may watch them both to c the hype
 

LIONESS onda RISE

Registered User
Love you back!

Yes I watched dark girls.
I'm sorry.. Meant to say I've never seen dark girls and had even less interest in light girls...

There's 4 of us girls...sisters ...ranging from the lightest of lights..to the darkest of darks. Our parents never prepared us for the bullshit of the outside world with respect to "color" and issues of common minded folk in respect to same. I never had interest to watch the programs because I guess my parents' philosophy stuck..nothing to talk about!!! It's all black!

Although I know It isssssss all black, our experiences growing up.. Dealing with "other" peoples issues caused each of our experiences to be very different..

Talking about this in 2015 is very sad..but based on what I've seen from my own two daughters..we will be talking about this until 2115..that's even sadder
 

Mrs. Campbell

Girl Crush
I'm sorry.. Meant to say I've never seen dark girls and had even less interest in light girls...

There's 4 of us girls...sisters ...ranging from the lightest of lights..to the darkest of darks. Our parents never prepared us for the bullshit of the outside world with respect to "color" and issues of common minded folk in respect to same. I never had interest to watch the programs because I guess my parents' philosophy stuck..nothing to talk about!!! It's all black!

Although I know It isssssss all black, our experiences growing up.. Dealing with "other" peoples issues caused each of our experiences to be very different..

Talking about this in 2015 is very sad..but based on what I've seen from my own two daughters..we will be talking about this until 2115..that's even sadder

I think the biggest misconception is people assume light skin people are living on easy street. Remember hearing about how light skin dudes had to prove them selves all through school, because the assumption was "He light skin, he ain't gone do sh!t".

If we could just admit all this mess is INSANE.
 

Poca

Registered User
True, it is common belief that people who appears "better" face less hurdles than the rest. Often time people forget that they suffer too on different issues.


I think the biggest misconception is people assume light skin people are living on easy street. Remember hearing about how light skin dudes had to prove them selves all through school, because the assumption was "He light skin, he ain't gone do sh!t".

If we could just admit all this mess is INSANE.
 

Swollen

Players Play I Coach
I think the biggest misconception is people assume light skin people are living on easy street. Remember hearing about how light skin dudes had to prove them selves all through school, because the assumption was "He light skin, he ain't gone do sh!t".

If we could just admit all this mess is INSANE.
So Personality don't have anything to do with it...Ja...
 

Lucianite

Registered User
Right on " he who feels knows it"
And not having seen dark or light girls
In. General you can tell your struggles but
It really depends on who you talking to
So imagine a person with poor eyesight complaining to Stevie wonder about having to wear glasses
 

NikkiGiovanni

Warrior Queen
What stuck out for me was all the backlash on social media. It bothered me that people were quick to dismiss their pain and experiences. How can you dismiss being chased home and or beaten up practically every day because someone perceives you as "thinking you're cute", when you haven't even opened your mouth. Or being put on pedestals by family members...which results in creating discourse and strife between siblings. Or constantly having to prove how "down" you are. Made me think of the film "Imitation of Life". First time I saw it, I hated Mary Jane. The second time around, I felt sorry for her. Being admired and fawned over by blacks, but not truly accepted. Yet passing as white, but holding your breath at every turn that nobody finds out you're black...like the guy did in the film.


In a nutshell, I don't think we should get into a pain pissing contest. IMO, we should acknowledge each other and go from there.

DISCLAIMER - I'm not dark, nor am I light skinned.
Oh i wasn't dismissing their pain at all....i guess, the Dark Girls show was only one hour, this one was two hours and it seemed to go intp more historical and psychological depth than dark girls...which made it easier to empathize with their pain, meanwhile dark girls just made us seem bitter about our color

I was discussing it on Madame Noire page and it seemed some of the light skinned women couldnt wait to jump out and call dark women bitter and angry and insecure, just for discussing the documentary and obvious things....when one woman said she wished they didn't leave out the light skinned privilege aspect, they jumped down her throat and denied it exists. One woman was saying she dont like Iyanla Vanzant and it was obvious that it was because Iyanla was dark and the poster was light.

When the dark women spoke of how hurtful it was that Black men felt light women were trophies, the light women again went on attack mode and dsmissed the dark women. They were quite shady...
 

NikkiGiovanni

Warrior Queen
The part that stood out to me was when Michaela Davis said her grandmother had to marry a light skinned man so that her children could LIVE....it was about survival, life and death....i get that....when she said, her grandmother's generation was about LIFE...,her mother's generation was about LIBERTY and this generation is about the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, that struck me as very profound.

I have a friend that just screened her film about passing. Because she comes from a line of very fair skinned people. Her grandmother was light and looked like Lena Horne and married a white men.....both her daughters married white men as well...we spoken a lot about her family and what it was like for her because my friend identifies as Black but she looks white.,,..not even light skinned, but white....
 
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