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US gives blessing to France-Libya nuclear deal

The United States gave its blessing Monday to a civilian nuclear energy deal between France and Libya, saying it expected its former foe to respect its decision to renounce weapons of mass destruction.
"In light of Libya's historic decision in 2003 to rid itself of its WMD programs, we expect any cooperation with Libya on a peaceful secure and responsible use of nuclear power to be consistent with the highest standard of non-proliferation," said Kurtis Cooper, a State Department spokesman.

France announced plans to sell nuclear reactors to Libya as well as 10 billion euros of trade deals, as President Nicolas Sarkozy welcomed Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi on Monday for a five-day visit.

US-Libyan relations were restored in early 2004, following a break since 1981, a few weeks after Kadhafi announced that Tripoli was abandoning efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction.

The United States announced last year a full normalization of ties, lifting Libya from a State Department list of state sponsors of terrorism and raising diplomatic relations to the level of ambassadors.

US gives blessing to France-Libya nuclear deal

*sigh* OK, so Iran claimed that their nuclear facilities are entirely for civilian purposes, the White House et al say no. Then a US report showed that they had evidence that Iran had given up their nuclear ambitions since 2003. Let us also not forget that it was France who broke the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and aided Israel in becoming the first and only nuclear power in the Middle East.

Where's the hypocrisy?

TRANSLATION:

A MudderfuKKKer GOT PAID!

I remember clearly back in the day when the White Ruling Class declared Gadaffi a MAD MAN and a Terrorist:
BBC News | World | Libya wants US 'bombers' for trial
And White Working Class Suckers coined the term "Sand Nigger"

Hypocrcy...double standards...whatever.

*sigh* OK, so Iran claimed that their nuclear facilities are entirely for civilian purposes, the White House et al say no. Then a US report showed that they had evidence that Iran had given up their nuclear ambitions since 2003. Let us also not forget that it was France who broke the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and aided Israel in becoming the first and only nuclear power in the Middle East.

One of the differences between Libya and Iran is that the US has
diplomatic relations with Libya while it's been almost three decades
since the US had diplomatic relations with Iran.

On another note Gaddafi used a number of economic tactics to
protect Libya over the years. He invested millions (maybe billions) from
the Libyan treasury in Fiat which often kept Italy and France from joining
resolutions pushed by the US.

__________________
President Obama...Get Used To It!!!

So it's purely political. Thank you.

No, it's not just political...it's a trust issue. I honestly don't know why you trying to make Iran seem like it's this rational, dependable and trust-worthy government when it's entire history shows otherwise.

Gee........the MudderfuKKKing YanKKKeeZ still got Diplomatic Relations with ZIMBABWE....
Ambassador James D. McGee
.........Comrade Bob should make a play to get a Reactor too!

What about Israel's war-mongering? And why has pressure never been put on them to allow UN inspectors in, or to sign any of the international conventions on human rights, and torture? Compare Israel to Iran...which one is the real 'rogue' states. That's hypocricy.

Let's try and stay focused here for a minute shall we. Israel is already signatory to many of the International Human Rights Conventions. Many of the violations have not only been resolved, but the allegations are outdated and involve it's presence in the occupied territories. Not that any of that has much to do with anything since we're not discussing Iran's human rights violations (do we even need to? lol). Israel's nuclear program is self-disclosing and not subject to UN scrutiny for abuses, it's fully on-line, operational and the world is well aware of it.

Israel hasn't made it a business to target individuals for expressing criticism of it's regime...targeting them with death mind you, nor has it supported terrorism. Israel is guilty of many things, but you must bear in mind that they've been under constant attack since the country was established 60 yrs ago. They have a right to defend themselves. When was the last time Iran was attacked by anybody not named Saddam? Shoot...when was the last time Iran was even attacked?

If Iran is willing to arm terrorist cells all over the middle-east and the world, don't you think it is likely that they'll also provide them nuclear capabilities? Do you NOT see this as a credible possibility or do you concede the possibility but consider the risk minimal? Do you think that terrorists will be responsible with nuclear weapons in their possession, or do you think you'll be some how safe if they choose to not act responsibly?

I'm genuinely curious as to why you fail to appreciate the threat that this represents.

Because this is the same administration who said that Iraq had Weapons of Mass destruction and used that pretense to wage an unjust war. And the same thing is going to happen again. Thousands of innocent people are going to die, and for what?

Without a doubt the US has lost a lot of credibility under Bush, but credibility aside, it stands to reason that Iran would have been pursuing nuclear power at the same time that Iraq was, the relative capabilities of Sadam's nuclear program may have been exaggerated by Bush, but Sadam's attempts to develop a nuclear program is no fiction. So again, since your position is that Iran has a right to develop such a program, I have to ask you...do you not see there being a risk of them (given their well-established support of terrorism on various levels) allowing such weapons to fall into the wrong hands?

A simple yes/no will put this increasingly circular discussion to rest.

First of all, the proof is that

1) Israel is an occupying power in the Palestinian territory.
2) They are ignoring the UN Mandate which divided Palestine into a Jewish State and a supposedly Muslim State.
3) The occupation has not been temporary or provisional.
4) They are infringing on Palestine's right to self-determination, even when the democratically elected Hamas came into power, the US and Israel refused to recognise it.

They have acted without regard to the Geneva IV based on the length of their occupation, the establishments of Jewish settlements in what was supposed to be Palestine territory, a refual to commit to an eventual withdrawal, opposition to negotiating within a normative frame-work.

They also contradict the Convention by land confiscations, radical changes in the administrative structure of the occupied territories, restriction on movement, harsh curfews, arbitary arrest and detention, demolition and sealing of houses of individuals suspected of resistance and other acts of collective punishment. They even go so far as to argue that International Humanitarian Law does not apply to the occupied territories.

And this, is what Israel ratified:

"States which have Ratified the Convention Against Torture and made declaration, under Article 28, that they do not recognize the competence of the Committee against Torture to investigate allegations of widespread torture within their boundaries"

So then what's the point?

And I believe it was in 2001 that Israel used an unknown gas against Palestinian protestors, many of whom were children which caused them to have severe convulsions. Israel has still refused to identify the gas that they used.

I find it funny that you're saying that Israel no longer occupies any part of Palestine...so where exactly is the wall, which the ICJ ruled illegal, running through?

And those satellites are US operated and the only country that enjoys this exemption is Israel. They stipulated that no images of less than 300m are allowed. Why is Israel so special? The only reason Israel is being protected is that they, and other European States will be in violation of International Conventions - especially the Non-Proliferation Treaty. And about Iraq's supposed attempts to develop nuclear weapons, well those nuclear reactors were being regularly inspected by the UN Atomic agency and Israel blew them up under the guise of 'pre-emptive self-defence' which was roundly condemned by the International Community.

And I am not rallying support for Iran, I am pointing out the hypocricy of the West, because I do not want to see innocent people suffer. Because when you're cosy in your house watching the NFL, people will be having bombs rained down upon them.

And about Mordechai Vanunu, being imprisoned for over 16 yrs for not committing any crime, being held in solitary confinement, being drugged and kidnapped and brought back to Israel by the Mossad, basically having his life stripped away from him...well, some people might prefer death. And since Israel is such a 'free' land, why did they go through all these measures to punish him for giving an interview to the Times UK, violating the territorial sovreignty of other states in the process.

And to your final question:

First of all, there is no 'well-established support of terrorism' by Iran. Secondly, the weapons are already in the wrong hands. And thirdly, there is irrefutable evidence that Iran stopped whatever nuclear ambitions they had in 2003!

If you're so convinced that Iran stopped "whatever nuclear ambitions they had" back in 2003...then what's your gripe exactly...that the US don't want them to have something they don't even want themselves?

Lol....somebody's been standing too close to the glue


there is so much that you type that I could continue to go back and forth on, like this "irrefutable" evidence talk, and "israel occupying Palestine and what not. It's all interesting I'm sure...this revisionist historical/alternate reality of yours.

lol Alternate reality...hilarious...especially since Internatinal Community is almost unanimous in its condemnation of Israel, and the fact that they are also in violaton of International Law. How many legal scholars are there who can make a convincing case in support of Israel? Zero.