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Old 01-09-2007, 11:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why White People Are Afraid

By Robert Jensen, AlterNet. Posted June 7, 2006.



What do white people have to be afraid of in a world structured on white privilege? Their own fears.

It may seem self-indulgent to talk about the fears of white people in a white-supremacist society. After all, what do white people really have to be afraid of in a world structured on white privilege? It may be self-indulgent, but it's critical to understand because these fears are part of what keeps many white people from confronting ourselves and the system.

The first, and perhaps most crucial, fear is that of facing the fact that some of what we white people have is unearned. It's a truism that we don't really make it on our own; we all have plenty of help to achieve whatever we achieve. That means that some of what we have is the product of the work of others, distributed unevenly across society, over which we may have little or no control individually. No matter how hard we work or how smart we are, we all know -- when we are honest with ourselves -- that we did not get where we are by merit alone. And many white people are afraid of that fact.

A second fear is crasser: White people's fear of losing what we have -- literally the fear of losing things we own if at some point the economic, political, and social systems in which we live become more just and equitable. That fear is not completely irrational; if white privilege -- along with the other kinds of privilege many of us have living in the middle class and above in an imperialist country that dominates much of the rest of the world -- were to evaporate, the distribution of resources in the United States and in the world would change, and that would be a good thing. We would have less. That redistribution of wealth would be fairer and more just. But in a world in which people have become used to affluence and material comfort, that possibility can be scary.

A third fear involves a slightly different scenario -- a world in which non-white people might someday gain the kind of power over whites that whites have long monopolized. One hears this constantly in the conversation about immigration, the lingering fear that somehow "they" (meaning not just Mexican-Americans and Latinos more generally, but any non-white immigrants) are going to keep moving to this country and at some point become the majority demographically.

Even though whites likely can maintain a disproportionate share of wealth, those numbers will eventually translate into political, economic, and cultural power. And then what? Many whites fear that the result won't be a system that is more just, but a system in which white people become the minority and could be treated as whites have long treated non-whites. This is perhaps the deepest fear that lives in the heart of whiteness. It is not really a fear of non-white people. It's a fear of the depravity that lives in our own hearts: Are non-white people capable of doing to us the barbaric things we have done to them?

A final fear has probably always haunted white people but has become more powerful since the society has formally rejected overt racism: The fear of being seen, and seen-through, by non-white people. Virtually every white person I know, including white people fighting for racial justice and including myself, carries some level of racism in our minds and hearts and bodies. In our heads, we can pretend to eliminate it, but most of us know it is there. And because we are all supposed to be appropriately anti-racist, we carry that lingering racism with a new kind of fear: What if non-white people look at us and can see it? What if they can see through us? What if they can look past our anti-racist vocabulary and sense that we still don't really know how to treat them as equals? What if they know about us what we don't dare know about ourselves? What if they can see what we can't even voice?

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Old 01-09-2007, 11:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do you ever go through one day without studying "white" people?
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh please. White apologists and their extremism of interpretation are just as bad as White Supremacists. I'll tell you what White people fear, being stereotyped as evil everyday, not being judged as individuals but some preconceived notion.
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Originally Posted by currygyal View Post
Question...

Do you ever go through one day without studying "white" people?

Most of my post deal with race related issuses concerning "BLACKS" where do you get me studying "white" ppl from

If you gonna ask question ask the right questions ?
Like do you ever go through one day studying "race" issuses related to black ppl ?

Why do u care anyhow ?

Now back to the article do you agree or not ?
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Most of my post deal with race related issuses concerning "BLACKS" where do you get me studying "white" ppl from
Seems like a frequent thing...
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Originally Posted by currygyal View Post
Seems like a frequent thing...
Oh Please. My post deal with race issuses in the black community worldwide. Your welcome to pull up frequent post about "white ppl" that you speak of ...but i warn you make sure it has nuttin to do with any RACIAL issuses ..... and all about me "studying" white ppl ... I'll be waiting please don't dissappoint
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Originally Posted by soca_souljah View Post
Oh Please. My post deal with race issuses in the black community worldwide. Your welcome to pull up frequent post about "white ppl" that you speak of ...but i warn you make sure it has nuttin to do with any RACIAL issuses ..... and all about me "studying" white ppl ... I'll be waiting please don't dissappoint
Your assumption is that White people only think in racial terms so all your White posts would relate to that.
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White Privilege and White Fear
Posted by: tiellis on Jun 7, 2006 6:25 AM

I read this article with some interest; it made a number of interesting points. But I generally find this kind of self-flagellatory discourse by white scholars a bit neurotic. And I'm quite sure that most black people would agree with me.

I am a middle-class white (Anglo-American) professor, the beneficiary of all sorts of built-in, culturally ingrained privileges--including not only my mainstream ethnicity, but also my commanding height, my mainstream English name, and my deep, resonant voice--that have made my life and career path far easier than it would have been if I had been born either working-class white, black, Hispanic, gay, or female, short, fat, or with a high nasal tenor voice like Truman Capote. In short, first impressions, over which people have relatively little control, give people like me--white, male, mainstream, speaking standard English--an enormous, and unearned, initial advantage over others. But none of this is my own doing, nor--more to the point--is it my fault. In these respects, I am simply lucky.

So what is my point? I have gotten to know African Americans quite well, having taught for the past 17 years at colleges where African Americans were the majority--including 11 years full-time at an entirely black university, where the only white people to be found comprised about 30 percent of the faculty. From this extensive experience, I largely overcame the ingrained fear of black people that most white people have.

What I have found is that the secret for getting along well with black people--or any other "other" for that matter, is simply to treat them like human beings--smile, say hello, make smalltalk, be there if they need you, and leave them alone if they want to be left alone. Nothing else matters. When I go into my local supermarket (in a city which is 70% black) I watch other white people instinctively withdraw into themselves and subtly avoid the black people all around them, causing the black people to do likewise. But instead, when I encounter a black person (or white person for that matter), I gauge their comfort level, and if it is sufficient, I make eye contact, smile slightly, and say "how ya doin'?" What I have found from this simple practice is that by and large, the black people are far more gracious, far less frightened, than the white people I have met. In fact, they seem delighted that a white man even acknowledges their existence, since most white people are too afraid to do so. This allows me to get along quite effortlessly with black people, and feel compassion, rather than scorn, for the fearful white people.

In short, I don't think that white guilt or self-flagellation serves any adaptive purpose. I cannot help the fact that I was born to privilege; it was not my doing, nor is it my fault. And if others resent me for it, all I can do is continue to treat them like human beings, in the hope that they will return the favor, and realize that I am just another human being like themselves, and not simply "The White Man." But if they don't see this, and persist in projecting their own stereotype of "The White Man" on me, I need not resent them for this, nor apologize for being white. I'll simply try to empathize with the pain that led them to this perception, and show compassion for them in whatever way they will allow--or leave them alone if they want to be left alone. As Lao Tzu said, all we really need to do is to "take care of everyone and abandon no one."
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Originally Posted by Otorongo View Post
Your assumption is that White people only think in racial terms so all your White posts would relate to that.
They don't ... Tell that to the Afri diaspora in every corner of this planet ... Tell them that white ppl never intended to rape, kill, destroy their ancestors/ancestral lands/population/culture .... Tell them that they live in the worst possible conditions cause white ppl really like them ...tell them one day all Anglo/Aryan white ppl will appologize and intend to undo there wrongs actions one day.... Tell them that there skin colour has nothind to do with why they are on the bottom of the global ecomomic that .... Ask them if their were Aparthieds . caste systems that wipe out civilizations b4 white ppl crawled out the caves .

Tell ppl of colour that the white ppl does't think in terms of race .... Then tell me what you found out ... i'll be waiting don't dissapoint
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Originally Posted by soca_souljah View Post
They don't ... Tell that to the Afri diaspora in every corner of this planet ... Tell them that white ppl never intended to rape, kill, destroy their ancestors/ancestral lands/population/culture .... Tell them that they live in the worst possible conditions cause white ppl really like them ...tell them one day all Anglo/Aryan white ppl will appologize and intend to undo there wrongs actions one day.... Tell them that there skin colour has nothind to do with why they are on the bottom of the global ecomomic that .... Ask them if their were Aparthieds . caste systems that wipe out civilizations b4 white ppl crawled out the caves .

Tell ppl of colour that the white ppl does't think in terms of race .... Then tell me what you found out ... i'll be waiting don't dissapoint
Thanks for proving my point. You are obsessed with White people.
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Thanks for proving my point. You are obsessed with White people.
Not as chance Jamie ... I don't care enuff bout them to be obsessed .... Stop beind so AFRAID of the Truth
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Originally Posted by soca_souljah View Post
Not as chance Jamie ... I don't care enuff bout them to be obsessed .... Stop beind so AFRAID of the Truth
Not afraid of it at all. You obsessed with White People and Black people.
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Originally Posted by currygyal View Post
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Do you ever go through one day without studying "white" people?
YOU BETTER be an EXPERT on the MudderfuKKKer!

AND position yourself to STAKE YOUR CLAIM when their Sh8tsem Falls Apart.
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