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Jamaican Su'Flan
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http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/W...to.America.htm
Very good essay to read with links to the references . Here is a small passage which gives you an idea: Columbus was accompanied by five 'maranos' (Jews who had foresworn their religion and supposedly became Catholics), Luis de Torres, interpreter, Marco, the surgeon, Bemal, the physician, Alonzo de la Calle and Gabriel Sanchez (1). Gabriel Sanchez, abetted by the other four Jews, sold Columbus on the idea of capturing 500 Indians and selling them as slaves in Seville, Spain, which was done. Columbus did not receive any of the money from the sale of the slaves, but he became the victim of a conspiracy fostered by Bemal, the ship's doctor. He, Columbus, suffered injustice and imprisonment as his reward. Betrayed by the five maranos (Jews) whom he had trusted and helped. This, ironically, was the beginning of slavery in the Americas (2). also It is equally important to remember that these poor Black creatures had to lie in human excrement for the entire trip. Think of it! No wonder sickness and disease took such a high toll. Remember the figures: approximately one hundred ten million Black people were captured and removed from their homeland in Africa. Only ELEVEN MILLION of these Black slaves reached the Colonies alive. And the Jews still talk about the Germans and Hitler and how six million Jews were exterminated during World War II. This is the greatest LIE ever perpetrated upon the people of the world-whereas the story of the poor Black slaves is documented. Documented with TRUTH. The evidence is still available for the people of the world to see. The "Carnegie Institute of Technology" is located in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Choosen ppl, yeah ok ![]() |
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Are you saying the Holocaust didn't happen? Or that it's impact was
overstated? One of the reasons Jews still talk about the Holocaust is that there are many survivors alive today.
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Me not saying anything but the article is saying they amount of ppl that actually died was overstated. Just like homeboy in Iran, he said the same thing. The Essays says they just keep it fresh in our memories so they can benefit from it.
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Mr. BALTIMORE
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wrong no matter what the prevailing mentality at the time. In the case of Jews and the Holocaust their wounds are fresher.
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You say the Holocaust is more recent, but Hitler was conditioned by the same teachings of the men before him. What are the wounds of the Jews in America, the Jew in Europe, in the middle east and all over the world. Look at the jewish community in crown heights. For god's sake look at Israel, I guess the memory of the Holocaust has transformed into the political and social oppression of Palestinians. A land that is not even there's. During world war two, Britian advertised free property for jewish exiles in Kenya. This community profited off of the free labor of kenyans and where acessible to many priviliges. This is not to say that the Holocaust never happened, or that it should not be recognized. I just cant support the zionistic shit, that many jews like to use for their benefits. The west loves to glorify the victims of the Holocaust, but we have such a hard time talking about slavery and tend to look at it as just being the "past"/ |
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however your teacher's feelings of both racial and intellectual superiority are probably a coping mechanism to make him feel good about himself and mask his own insecurities. Though I've only met the descendants of slaves, I have met a couple Holocaust victims and listened to them tell their stories which were horrible. Because the Holocaust was much more recent than slavery in America and the fact that almost half of all Jews in the world live here the plight of its victims is unlikely to be forgotten.
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Nobody's glorifying any "idealogy"...people who criticise the focus on the Holocaust do so without much common sense. The simple fact is that the atrocities of the Holocaust were documented vividly in writing (by victims and other eyewitnesses) as well as on film. It doesn't make the Holocaust worthier as a tragedy than the Middle Passage or slavery...but vivid images have a way of leaving a lasting impression on the psyche. Black people should get off this habit of comparing slavery with the Holocaust, and they need to stop trying to demonize Jews at every turn...it just looks stupid.
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havnt read article
attack on the publicity of the jewish holicaust is not necessary unless used to make a point of some sort. and a point could be made... since white people in general in u.s. and probably other westernized areas are clueless about what happened in slavery and its ongoing effects in society and the psyches of the different races! |
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