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Point-man

I don’t know where you source your info from, but granted that dictators do not hold elections, and as brutal as Saddam was (and THAT was mostly against the Kurds), he was elected. Further, if you look at most of the attacks occurring against the coalition forces, you will realise that many of them are occurring in the NORTH, which has always been anti-Saddam.

As for the statement “if people are so upset with george bush elect another president an the next president will pull all the troops out of iraq an all over the world then the terrorists wont do anymore bombings nowhere they will just be happy, was rather simplistic (if not sarcastic?). If you study the workings of such agencies as the State Dept. and the CIA, you will realise that it does not matter at all who is in office, certain policies and actions remain the same and this is why the hatred of the US runs deep in many parts of the world. Guatemala is still reeling from the CIA-backed coup that ousted democratically elected Jacobo Arbenz, likewise Chile is still getting over the bloody reign of Augusto Pinochet who was installed by the US at the expense of democratically elected President Allende. Go back a little and recall the way the Palestinians celebrated in the streets of their shantytowns and camps when they received news of the destruction of the WTC on Sept 11. You think they are as naïve as many of us over here, or are fed the propaganda horse sh*t that passes for journalism on ABC, CBS, NBC or CNN?

Do not forget the role the USA has played in the coup attempt in Venezuela. President Chavez is totally despised by the USA and I am sure that the CIA/State Department is somehow involved in the referendum against the Chavez.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ananci_7
[B]Point-man

I don’t know where you source your info from, but granted that dictators do not hold elections, and as brutal as Saddam was (and THAT was mostly against the Kurds), he was elected. Further, if you look at most of the attacks occurring against the coalition forces, you will realise that many of them are occurring in the NORTH, which has always been anti-Saddam.


when was the last election held an how long he been in power ?who was the runner up ?

Oh don’t think I have forgotten, Ragga. And knowing the US as I do, I am quite sure that they are behind a lot of the agitation in Venezuela. Chavez is way too dangerous a person to leave alone in the “back door” of Uncle Sam; his policies favour the common people and not the capitalist elite. Further, any kind of social and economic policy other than that espoused by the US and Europe, that actually favours the common people, would prove that there are indeed alternatives and that is most troubling to the States.

I wish a lot more people would study carefully the history of the US and Europe over the last 150 years, particularly the way they always undermined the attempts of countries and people whose ideologies and politics failed to agree with those of the North Atlantic. Enslavement and colonialism ended not because of some act of humanitarianism or pangs of conscience, but because they were draining the economies of Europe and the US; economies that were strong and in many cases came into being specifically by enslaving and colonising huge numbers of cheap manual labour whose sole purpose was to manufacture whatever satisfied the cravings of other Europeans and Yanks. Africa, Asia (including places like Iraq which is in Asia Minor) and the Americas (Central, South and the Caribbean) hold the immense mineral wealth that the US and Europe urgently needs for the survival of their own economies. As long as these places are kept in a state of social, political and economic dependency, it works to the benefit of the North Atlantic metropole. A good book to read is “Fortune’s Warriors: Private Armies and the New World Order”.

I have chosen to re-read your earlier posts Point-man and it does appear that you are a die-hard supporter of the US and the Bush administration if not an outright apologist. This is very interesting for someone who has Caribbean roots (if indeed you do have said roots). For it indicates that you are either very ignorant of the history of the Caribbean and its relationship with the US and Europe or you are well aware but descends from a family who has benefited from such a horrific relationship.

Now understand me well; I am not a supporter of Saddam. I personally don’t care whether he lives or dies (in fact, as a person of African descent and he being an Arab, I should have even less reasons to like him since Arabs have enslaved and murdered African people long before the Europeans/Euro-Americans got into the act), but let’s put things in their proper historical context. We of the Caribbean are supposed to know more than anyone else, except perhaps colonial Africa and South America, about being manipulated and coerced by the North Atlantic powers by violence and economic enslavement. We have been subjected to their brand of terrorism for over 500 years. Therefore one would have thought that we are more wise to the propaganda of the West and better placed to guide the rest of the world to proper courses of action.

My advice is to not take up Bush and dem fire rage but to think things through (who benefits from all this? War is a business and has always been). Europe and the USA have always been adept at involving the people they exploit and colonise in their wars. They make us fight for them in order that they stay superior. Don’t ever forget that Saddam, like Usama bin Laden and Manuel Noriega, was once an ally of the US and was supplied with weapons, intelligence and weapon systems by the West when it suited their interests.

Money, money, money is the root of all evil. When the US entered WWI they did it because they felt as, Woodrow Wilson articulated that they had to 'make the world safe for democracy'. Well that same load of shite has been running ever since. It is hard and confusing and upsetting.Especially since black and poor people only have a thread of democracy here or do we? I really feel for my sisters and brothers over there, caught up in this modern day colonalism. I prey Jah guide you back. As a high school teacher I disuade students daily from joing the military, some listen others have lived to regret not listening and are trying to be released for operation oil right now. This country is beyond being ethnocentric we are involved in full blown jingoism. Although I never cried about the whole thing Solidarity's poem made me both laugh and shed a tear. And lord, Ananci 7 does drop some real science. I goin' bookstore when I get my next check. What a plot them a plot 'gainst I and I. . . . but them nah gon catch I.

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Thanks and STAY SAFE!

Jah blesssistren. i too once war uncle sam uniform trodding to somalia, bosnia and saudi arabia. but i have dropped that weight and now i trod a different path. i pray that the most hgh bring you back safely. this whole war on terrorism and such is just another means for the system of babylon to divide and rule and conquor. Another reason to persecute the man of darker skin .
jah bless