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    Violence Against African Immigrants in Philadelphia

    Violence Against African Immigrants in Philadelphia
    Against African Immigrants in Philadelphia


    FrontPageAfrica (Monrovia)

    November 14, 2005
    Posted to the web November 15, 2005


    The vicious beating of a 13-year-old Liberian boy in Southwest Philadelphia this week has exposed a larger problem of animosity between African Americans and African immigrants, according to community members and school officials.

    Police reported no arrests yesterday in the beating of Jacob Gray and were reluctant to label the incident a hate crime, but members of a Liberian community that has grown along Woodland Avenue say the attack fits a widespread pattern.

    "It's been going on for a quite a while," said Sekou Kamara, 25, a Liberian immigrant and Temple University student who runs a music and video store. "It's just the first time we've seen it in the newspapers."

    Kamara said his 18-year-old brother, who attends high school in Delaware County, was beaten this year by other blacks, and his sister had braids ripped from her head in an attack in Atlantic City.

    Kamara said some African Americans perceive the growing African-born community as a threat. "That's what the fighting is really about," he said. "You have this increasing African community competing with African American kids."

    Gray, a recent refugee from Liberia, was knocked unconscious Monday afternoon at 60th Street and Woodland Avenue by a group of black youths as he walked home from nearby Tilden Middle School, police said. The eighth grader remained at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia last night, but had been moved out of intensive care and into a regular ward, family members said. He has been able to speak to detectives. He told them he does not know why he was attacked.

    Orabella Richards, a Liberian businesswoman who instructs African American health-care workers on how to deal with African immigrants, said there is often friction between the two groups. "There's anger about African immigrants coming here and doing so well," she said. "You see them fixing up their houses, buying cars."

    Dixon Koffa Daye, 40, who opened a restaurant on Woodland recently, said he sometimes senses the resentment. "We came here to seek refuge," he said. "Us being here, some people take it as an insult." The tensions escalate when children become involved, Richards said.

    Moses Barquoi, 54, owner of Mosel International Market on Woodland, said that "American kids have a way of bullying kids from Africa for their accent."

    "The worst of all is if you're good in class," said Varney Kanneh, 47, a host on WSKR-FM (97.7) from Liberia, who alleged that some of his children had been harassed and attacked in Philadelphia public schools.

    The immigrants make some of the African American students look bad, Kanneh said, "and they don't want to look bad." In response to the harassment and attacks, African immigrant youths are seeking protection by assembling and traveling in groups, Kanneh said.

    Officer Joseph Young, the community relations officer for the 12th Police District, said he was aware of isolated incidents but no widespread problem. Capt. Michael Sinclair, commander of the Southwest Detective Division, concurred.

    In response to fears of being attacked, some African teenagers have formed gangs, said Portia Kamara, a Liberian-born director of Multicultural Family Services, an Upper Darby nonprofit agency. "The kids talk about being called African chimps, African monkeys, sometimes being told to go back to Africa," she said.

    Kamara recalled one youth telling her: "We are not forming gangs to go out and rob people, but it is a way of protecting ourselves against African Americans who think they can hurt us."

    The school, where 90 percent of the students are black, and 20 percent of the total student body is from West Africa, also will continue its work with local community agencies, including Project Tamaa, which runs support groups for West African students at Tilden. Educators also will try to recruit West African parents to help out in the school, she said.

    Another way for African youths to deal with the hostility and cultural differences is to assimilate, and that creates more tension between African Americans and African immigrants, because the immigrant parents feel they are in a struggle with black America for the souls of their children.

    "African parents feel their children are being influenced," Richards said. "The kids assimilate. They try and imitate [African American] children in their manner, their dress. They're hanging out in the neighborhood. And their parents don't want that."

    Many families have pulled their children out of the Philadelphia school system as a result of the animosity, said Samuel Slewion, a city social worker and a leader of the Liberian Association of Pennsylvania. He hears complaints about fights and near-fights between native-born and immigrant blacks several times a week. A few have led to Family Court, Municipal Court, and the Philadelphia Human Relations Commission, he said.

    Meanwhile, the Consulate of the Republic of Liberia, Teta Banks, will be holding a Town Hall Meeting on Friday, November 18, 2005 to address the recent incidences of violence against African children in Philadelphia. The meeting will be held at 7p.m. at the Christ International Baptist Church, located at 2210 South 65th Street, in Southwest Philadelphia, the area of the city where several violent attacks against Africans have occurred.

    The meeting comes in the wake of the Gray beaten incident. The 13yr-old Liberian youth who was severely beaten by some African-American youths en route from school is presently at home recovering from the tragedy. He suffered a broken jaw and blood clot on his brain.

    Among those expected to be in attendance at the Town Hall Meeting are City officials from the police department, school district, District Attorney's office, Human Relations Commission, City Council, African-American community-based organizations as well as leaders of African community organizations, including Coalition of African Communities Organizations (AFRICOM), the Liberian Association of Pennsylvania (LAP) and youth representatives.

    The city officials and community leaders are expected to dialogue with community members and to develop strategies to reduce racial and cultural tensions and to increase cultural understanding.

    At a previous meeting held last Friday, the city officials and leaders of the Liberian community reviewed the cases of racial and cultural violence that have occurred in Philadelphia, specifically against children of African immigrant families. Among those in attendance were J. Whyatt Mondesir, President of the Philadelphia Chapter of the NAACP, representative of the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission and Joyce Johnson from the Philadelphia School District.

    Philadelphia has a large population of families from several African countries including Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Nigeria, Cote D'Ivoire, Ethiopia, as well as Caribbean nations that have had similar problems.

    "Violence against any person and group should be intolerable in Philadelphia, as well as throughout the world," stated Teta Banks, Honorary Consul General of Liberia and President of the Consular Corps Association.

    She continued, "the fact that the recent incident involving the beating of a Liberian boy going home from school happened in Philadelphia necessitates that we painstakingly examine such cases and develop strategies for eliminating racism, ignorance, and violence. This means there is a responsibility on the part of the schools, police department, city government and community . It is ironic that for many Liberian families, coming to America was a freedom journey from war. Yet, they are still faced with violence in these streets, " she added.

    According to the organizers, the Town Hall Meeting on Friday, November 18, will be open to the public and the goals are to provide a venue for families of victims of youth violence to discuss their experiences, and for the collaboration to develop cultural training programs for law enforcement and school district personnel, cultural exchange programs for children in the community, and policies and programs to increase interaction among African-Americans and African immigrants to ensure protection and peace in the African immigrant communities.

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    Stupessss what the ass is this I reading here?
    Fair enough we all have our prejudices (from time to time)where immigrants are concerned BUT oh my gosh... you gonna attack kids coming from school?! That is just out-right 'dotishC*ntedness'...

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    Yeah, i knew there was tension, but this is plain stupid.

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    Stupid is putting it mildly...
    This is exactly the problem some people of African descent have... they never want to see a next Black man strive! Lord help us cuz some of us really are lost!

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    another sad story of migrants being targeted i just saw in BV.

    Black on Hispanic hate crime in South Georgia
    3 charged in South Georgia slayings

    By BILL TORPY
    Published on: 10/05/05
    TIFTON — Three suspects have been charged with last week's slayings of six people in South Georgia home invasion robberies against Hispanics.

    Stacy Bernard Sims, 19, Jamie Deamtrive Underwood, 27, and Jennifer Wilson, 26, all of Moultrie, were each charged with six counts of murder, authorities announced Wednesday at a late-morning news conference.

    Crime scene tape surrounds a Tifton mobile home Monday, three days after a father and son were killed there. Another man brutally beaten in that attack was taken off life support Tuesday.

    Underwood and Sims were initially charged with a home invasion Friday morning in Colquitt County, where a man and was shot in the head and his wife raped. The couple's three small children, who were home at the time, "were traumatized, but not physically hurt," said Vernon Keenan, director of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. The man is still hospitalized in serious condition.

    The two men -- who have been in custody since Sunday -- and Wilson are now charged in three other attacks -- two in Tifton and one elsewhere in Tift County. Wilson was arrested Tuesday night.



    On Friday, six people were killed by bat-wielding attackers who crashed through four trailers and bludgeoned the sleeping occupants while demanding money.

    The victims were identified today as Victims: Mateo Gomez, 54; Jose Luis Tias, 20; Maurico Florindo, age unknown; Felipe Mauricio Esparza, 32; Guadalupe Sanchez, age unknown; and Armando Perez Martinez, 25.

    Robbery is cited as the motive for the crimes.

    "We don't think it is race related or a hate crime. It's just that they were easy targets," said Colquitt County Sheriff Al Wittington Wednesday, adding his deputies were able to quickly made arrests because of tips from the public.

    "We started with a sketch [of the suspects] from the GBI and got leads from the community. We started following the leads. You can hide a lot easier in Atlanta than you can in [South Georgia].

    "Hopefully this has opened the doors to the Hispanic community and started some trust with them," Wittington said.

    The terror fueled by the attacks has surged through the community, especially among families of Hispanics who live in trailers.

    Effraim Navarro Gomez was asleep in the trailer he shared with Martinez. Gomez, through a translator, said he awoke to the sounds of gunshots and screaming and ran outside his home and hid in a bush.

    "I felt the family [of the victims] would think I am the guilty one. I survived and they didn't. I still can't get this out of my mind," he said, adding another of his roommates is still hospitalized.

    "I don't feel that safe, I've been left with a psychosis," said Gomez, who moved to Tifton from Nicaragua about a month ago.

    Alesha McCluskey lives with her Mexico-born husband, Carlos Hernandez, in a trailer park down the road from where one of the attacks occurred. Her husband, a farmworker, knew one of the men who was killed.

    "We now keep our door locked with two chains," said McCluskey, who is pregnant. "We even keep our bedroom doors locked. It's a shame to be afraid in your own home."

    Keenan said five of the six dead men -- one was taken off life support Tuesday -- had been beaten to death with an aluminum baseball bat. One had been shot. The attacks all occurred at separate trailer parks within a four-hour period and were aimed at Hispanic migrant workers in what has been an ongoing pattern. Keenan called Hispanic laborers "ready-made victims" because they often keep large amounts of cash and are reluctant to report the crimes to authorities because they are often illegal immigrants or they don't trust police.

    "A lot of them are scared to call police because of the way the police are in Mexico," said Juan, a 43-year-old Mexican farmworker who was sleeping in a Tifton trailer where three men were killed. Juan, a father of three who has lived in the United States for four years and Tifton for one, declined to give his last name.

    Juan said he was asleep in a bedroom Friday when, "I heard them fighting, fussing and arguing," he said through an interpreter while staying at another trailer. He had 10 metal staples in his right temple and said he had a cracked wrist bone from warding off the bat.

    "I never came out of my room; they charged into my room," he said. "They were screaming [in English]."

    Three men died in that attack, including the man taken off life support Tuesday. Two of the dead were Jose Gomez and his son, Mateo, said the Rev. Alfonso Gutierrez, a priest at Our Divine Savior in Tifton, which serves the growing Hispanic community.

    Authorities have said home invasions with beatings and robberies of Hispanics have been common for months, if not years. Gutierrez said his first visit to the home of a parishioner when he came to Tifton three years ago was because of a home invasion.

    "They said two African-American guys pushed into their trailer, put a gun to the head of their son, who was 3 years old, and requested his money," the priest recalled. "We have this at least once or twice a month. Unfortunately, they don't go to the police because of their immigration situation or they are afraid the [attackers] will come back to them if they make a report."

    Gutierrez and authorities say the attackers target single men who live in cramped, substandard conditions.

    "There are six, eight, 10 people in one trailer," Gutierrez said. "They live there just to sleep and work. They have no air conditioning in trailers of bad condition. They don't care about comfort. They just want to make money to send it home to Mexico."

    Sgt. Alfonzo Cook, of the Moultrie police in Colquitt County, writes a public safety column in La Estrella del Sur, a Spanish language newspaper printed in the area. He said most of the assailants get away with their crimes. However, a 2003 home invasion killing of a Hispanic man in neighboring Cook County led to a 20-year manslaughter sentence.

    Cook said Hispanics' inability to get bank accounts because of the lack of proper identification further endangers them.

    "These [criminals] sit around and see that. They see them with a wad of cash at Wal-Mart," Cook said. "They check out where they live. If you hit one house with several people in there, you'll get a big payday."

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    Interesting. Nation of islam trying to be Shariah now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otorongo
    Violence Against African Immigrants in Philadelphia
    Against African Immigrants in Philadelphia


    FrontPageAfrica (Monrovia)

    November 14, 2005
    Posted to the web November 15, 2005


    The vicious beating of a 13-year-old Liberian boy in Southwest Philadelphia this week has exposed a larger problem of animosity between African Americans and African immigrants, according to community members and school officials.

    Police reported no arrests yesterday in the beating of Jacob Gray and were reluctant to label the incident a hate crime, but members of a Liberian community that has grown along Woodland Avenue say the attack fits a widespread pattern.

    "It's been going on for a quite a while," said Sekou Kamara, 25, a Liberian immigrant and Temple University student who runs a music and video store. "It's just the first time we've seen it in the newspapers."

    Kamara said his 18-year-old brother, who attends high school in Delaware County, was beaten this year by other blacks, and his sister had braids ripped from her head in an attack in Atlantic City.

    Kamara said some African Americans perceive the growing African-born community as a threat. "That's what the fighting is really about," he said. "You have this increasing African community competing with African American kids."

    Gray, a recent refugee from Liberia, was knocked unconscious Monday afternoon at 60th Street and Woodland Avenue by a group of black youths as he walked home from nearby Tilden Middle School, police said. The eighth grader remained at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia last night, but had been moved out of intensive care and into a regular ward, family members said. He has been able to speak to detectives. He told them he does not know why he was attacked.

    Orabella Richards, a Liberian businesswoman who instructs African American health-care workers on how to deal with African immigrants, said there is often friction between the two groups. "There's anger about African immigrants coming here and doing so well," she said. "You see them fixing up their houses, buying cars."

    Dixon Koffa Daye, 40, who opened a restaurant on Woodland recently, said he sometimes senses the resentment. "We came here to seek refuge," he said. "Us being here, some people take it as an insult." The tensions escalate when children become involved, Richards said.

    Moses Barquoi, 54, owner of Mosel International Market on Woodland, said that "American kids have a way of bullying kids from Africa for their accent."

    "The worst of all is if you're good in class," said Varney Kanneh, 47, a host on WSKR-FM (97.7) from Liberia, who alleged that some of his children had been harassed and attacked in Philadelphia public schools.

    The immigrants make some of the African American students look bad, Kanneh said, "and they don't want to look bad." In response to the harassment and attacks, African immigrant youths are seeking protection by assembling and traveling in groups, Kanneh said.

    Officer Joseph Young, the community relations officer for the 12th Police District, said he was aware of isolated incidents but no widespread problem. Capt. Michael Sinclair, commander of the Southwest Detective Division, concurred.

    In response to fears of being attacked, some African teenagers have formed gangs, said Portia Kamara, a Liberian-born director of Multicultural Family Services, an Upper Darby nonprofit agency. "The kids talk about being called African chimps, African monkeys, sometimes being told to go back to Africa," she said.

    Kamara recalled one youth telling her: "We are not forming gangs to go out and rob people, but it is a way of protecting ourselves against African Americans who think they can hurt us."

    The school, where 90 percent of the students are black, and 20 percent of the total student body is from West Africa, also will continue its work with local community agencies, including Project Tamaa, which runs support groups for West African students at Tilden. Educators also will try to recruit West African parents to help out in the school, she said.

    Another way for African youths to deal with the hostility and cultural differences is to assimilate, and that creates more tension between African Americans and African immigrants, because the immigrant parents feel they are in a struggle with black America for the souls of their children.

    "African parents feel their children are being influenced," Richards said. "The kids assimilate. They try and imitate [African American] children in their manner, their dress. They're hanging out in the neighborhood. And their parents don't want that."

    Many families have pulled their children out of the Philadelphia school system as a result of the animosity, said Samuel Slewion, a city social worker and a leader of the Liberian Association of Pennsylvania. He hears complaints about fights and near-fights between native-born and immigrant blacks several times a week. A few have led to Family Court, Municipal Court, and the Philadelphia Human Relations Commission, he said.

    Meanwhile, the Consulate of the Republic of Liberia, Teta Banks, will be holding a Town Hall Meeting on Friday, November 18, 2005 to address the recent incidences of violence against African children in Philadelphia. The meeting will be held at 7p.m. at the Christ International Baptist Church, located at 2210 South 65th Street, in Southwest Philadelphia, the area of the city where several violent attacks against Africans have occurred.

    The meeting comes in the wake of the Gray beaten incident. The 13yr-old Liberian youth who was severely beaten by some African-American youths en route from school is presently at home recovering from the tragedy. He suffered a broken jaw and blood clot on his brain.

    Among those expected to be in attendance at the Town Hall Meeting are City officials from the police department, school district, District Attorney's office, Human Relations Commission, City Council, African-American community-based organizations as well as leaders of African community organizations, including Coalition of African Communities Organizations (AFRICOM), the Liberian Association of Pennsylvania (LAP) and youth representatives.

    The city officials and community leaders are expected to dialogue with community members and to develop strategies to reduce racial and cultural tensions and to increase cultural understanding.

    At a previous meeting held last Friday, the city officials and leaders of the Liberian community reviewed the cases of racial and cultural violence that have occurred in Philadelphia, specifically against children of African immigrant families. Among those in attendance were J. Whyatt Mondesir, President of the Philadelphia Chapter of the NAACP, representative of the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission and Joyce Johnson from the Philadelphia School District.

    Philadelphia has a large population of families from several African countries including Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Nigeria, Cote D'Ivoire, Ethiopia, as well as Caribbean nations that have had similar problems.

    "Violence against any person and group should be intolerable in Philadelphia, as well as throughout the world," stated Teta Banks, Honorary Consul General of Liberia and President of the Consular Corps Association.

    She continued, "the fact that the recent incident involving the beating of a Liberian boy going home from school happened in Philadelphia necessitates that we painstakingly examine such cases and develop strategies for eliminating racism, ignorance, and violence. This means there is a responsibility on the part of the schools, police department, city government and community . It is ironic that for many Liberian families, coming to America was a freedom journey from war. Yet, they are still faced with violence in these streets, " she added.

    According to the organizers, the Town Hall Meeting on Friday, November 18, will be open to the public and the goals are to provide a venue for families of victims of youth violence to discuss their experiences, and for the collaboration to develop cultural training programs for law enforcement and school district personnel, cultural exchange programs for children in the community, and policies and programs to increase interaction among African-Americans and African immigrants to ensure protection and peace in the African immigrant communities.

    Some where someone is washing another Afrikan brain!
    One day the bosses will have to give back the Natives their landa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaribNVA
    Some where someone is washing another Afrikan brain!
    One day the bosses will have to give back the Natives their landa!
    And your claim is? That the Africans coming over are brain washed? How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otorongo
    And your claim is? That the Africans coming over are brain washed? How so?

    Don't twist it!

    Peter Tosh Lyrics - African Lyrics

    "lyrics AFRICAN
    Don't care where you come from
    As long as you're a black man
    You're an African
    (CHORUS)
    No mind your nationality
    You have got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come from Clarendon
    And if you come from Portland
    And if you come from Westmoreland
    You're an African

    CHORUS
    No mind your nationality
    You've got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come Trinidad
    And if you come from Nassau
    And if you come from Cuba
    You're an African

    CHORUS
    No mind your complexion
    There is no rejection
    You're an African

    'Cause if your plexion
    High(3x)
    If your complexion low, low, low
    And if your plexion in between
    You're an African

    CHORUS
    No mind denomination
    That is only segregation
    You're an African

    'Cause if you go to the Catholic
    And if you go to the Methodist
    And if you go to the Church of Gods
    You're an African

    CHORUS
    No mind your nationality
    You have got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come from Brixton
    And if you come from Weesday
    And if you come from Wingstead
    And if you come from France
    ...Brooklyn
    ...Queens
    ...Manhattan
    ...Canada
    ...Miami
    ...Switzerland
    ...Germany
    ...Russia
    ...Taiwan

    here"

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    Yeah, right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaribNVA
    Don't twist it!

    Peter Tosh Lyrics - African Lyrics

    "lyrics AFRICAN
    Don't care where you come from
    As long as you're a black man
    You're an African
    (CHORUS)
    No mind your nationality
    You have got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come from Clarendon
    And if you come from Portland
    And if you come from Westmoreland
    You're an African

    CHORUS
    No mind your nationality
    You've got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come Trinidad
    And if you come from Nassau
    And if you come from Cuba
    You're an African

    CHORUS
    No mind your complexion
    There is no rejection
    You're an African

    'Cause if your plexion
    High(3x)
    If your complexion low, low, low
    And if your plexion in between
    You're an African

    CHORUS
    No mind denomination
    That is only segregation
    You're an African

    'Cause if you go to the Catholic
    And if you go to the Methodist
    And if you go to the Church of Gods
    You're an African

    CHORUS
    No mind your nationality
    You have got the identity of an African

    'Cause if you come from Brixton
    And if you come from Weesday
    And if you come from Wingstead
    And if you come from France
    ...Brooklyn
    ...Queens
    ...Manhattan
    ...Canada
    ...Miami
    ...Switzerland
    ...Germany
    ...Russia
    ...Taiwan

    here"
    sorry tosh but dat is nonsense

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    This is awful.

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    african americans dont value their lives, why would they value anybody elses

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    well dis is jus ridiciolous
    like look at it racism is showing more and more clearer day by day AGAIN
    ah now it is gettin worse
    whether blackvs.black or nations vs.blacks

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