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Old 12-16-2005, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dec. 14, 2005 — - In a discovery that begins to shed light on what makes one person brown and another white, scientists have identified a gene that appears to be a key player in human pigmentation.

People share 99.9 percent of the same genes, yet pinpointing the very minor genetic variations that cause skin-color differences long has been a mystery to scientists. This discovery, published in the journal Science, marks a significant step toward understanding what's behind the panoply of human skin tones.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i wonder what good can possibly come out of this?
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Sencia
i wonder what good can possibly come out of this?
well theres always been theory about how white people came to be. I was just reading the article and it mirrors a theory that Dr. Francis Cress Welsing explores in her book called the Isis papers.

In her book, she talks about the more cultural aspect as opposed to the scientific paradigm this article explores, but to me, it brings a level of validity to her thesis which was written some 30+ years ago.
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well theres always been theory about how white people came to be. I was just reading the article and it mirrors a theory that Dr. Francis Cress Welsing explores in her book called the Isis papers.

In her book, she talks about the more cultural aspect as opposed to the scientific paradigm this article explores, but to me, it brings a level of validity to her thesis which was written some 30+ years ago
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Agreed. By extension, a report on this article, carried on ABC, talks about mutation of the gene from a single source [Africa]once migration was made to other climatic conditions. Of course, authors such as Welsing have wrote about this for years.
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Originally Posted by Sencia
i wonder what good can possibly come out of this?
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the more people realise how insignificant skin color is
the more positive effect this will have on society
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Agreed. By extension, a report on this article, carried on ABC, talks about mutation of the gene from a single source [Africa]once migration was made to other climatic conditions. Of course, authors such as Welsing have wrote about this for years.
you see, the funny thing about it is that they (white people) still don't want to admit that they come from us and that we are linked in so many different ways. In this society, logic is so much easier to accept than anything else. I wish I could look up more information on this study to see what they used as references with regard to there research
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Originally Posted by kevlocks
you see, the funny thing about it is that they (white people) still don't want to admit that they come from us and that we are linked in so many different ways. In this society, logic is so much easier to accept than anything else. I wish I could look up more information on this study to see what they used as references with regard to there research

not so true kev
look here...they do not deny that humans came from africa
https://www5.nationalgeographic.com/...hic/atlas.html


The Genographic Project is a five-year endeavor launched with the aim of understanding the ancient human journey of migration from its origins 60,000 years ago in Africa to ultimately populating the entire globe. The Project's goal is to collect genetic samples from people all over the world and analyze them for unique “genetic markers

http://www.tribstar.com/articles/200.../history04.txt
www.waittfoundation.org/past/Genographic.html
www.nationalgeographic.com/genographic
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Originally Posted by elq
not so true kev
look here...they do not deny that humans came from africa
https://www5.nationalgeographic.com/...hic/atlas.html


The Genographic Project is a five-year endeavor launched with the aim of understanding the ancient human journey of migration from its origins 60,000 years ago in Africa to ultimately populating the entire globe. The Project's goal is to collect genetic samples from people all over the world and analyze them for unique “genetic markers

http://www.tribstar.com/articles/200.../history04.txt
www.waittfoundation.org/past/Genographic.html
www.nationalgeographic.com/genographic
I know, it's a GREAT project . however, the issue that I notice is how white people try to take away the relevence of this archeological information moreso than anything else. They have a "yeah, so what" attitude as opposed to looking at how much closer information like this could bring us all together.
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Originally Posted by recess
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Dec. 14, 2005 — - In a discovery that begins to shed light on what makes one person brown and another white, scientists have identified a gene that appears to be a key player in human pigmentation.

People share 99.9 percent of the same genes, yet pinpointing the very minor genetic variations that cause skin-color differences long has been a mystery to scientists. This discovery, published in the journal Science, marks a significant step toward understanding what's behind the panoply of human skin tones.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/print?id=1408890
this is very true, we all came from the bush men in africa. dais y u have some white people walking around who are black.
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the more people realise how insignificant skin color is
the more positive effect this will have on society
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Originally Posted by kevlocks
well theres always been theory about how white people came to be. I was just reading the article and it mirrors a theory that Dr. Francis Cress Welsing explores in her book called the Isis papers.

In her book, she talks about the more cultural aspect as opposed to the scientific paradigm this article explores, but to me, it brings a level of validity to her thesis which was written some 30+ years ago.
Sorry, but a mutation that inhibits melanin production on the surface of your skin And which has been known, but not a specific receptor) is a far cry from Wesling's quack claims melanology claims. Notice Aians have a similar case, but of different origin. Parallel evolution.
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Originally Posted by elq
not so true kev
look here...they do not deny that humans came from africa
https://www5.nationalgeographic.com/...hic/atlas.html


The Genographic Project is a five-year endeavor launched with the aim of understanding the ancient human journey of migration from its origins 60,000 years ago in Africa to ultimately populating the entire globe. The Project's goal is to collect genetic samples from people all over the world and analyze them for unique “genetic markers

http://www.tribstar.com/articles/200.../history04.txt
www.waittfoundation.org/past/Genographic.html
www.nationalgeographic.com/genographic
never thought I would say this, but Great Post Elq!
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Agreed. By extension, a report on this article, carried on ABC, talks about mutation of the gene from a single source [Africa]once migration was made to other climatic conditions. Of course, authors such as Welsing have wrote about this for years.
You speak of this as though this is news...anthropology has pointed for decades as this being the case, we all know that civilization started in Africa and that human beings spread to the other parts of the world from there...genetics have confirmed this. This actually debunks Cress Welsing's unacademic drivel about white people being mutations from albinos. I'm surprised that you and Kevlocks would sign off on this unintelligent nonsense...when we know that albinism is a hereditary disease...not the result of environmentally induced spontaneous mutation...something quite common in evolution.
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Originally Posted by kevlocks
you see, the funny thing about it is that they (white people) still don't want to admit that they come from us and that we are linked in so many different ways. In this society, logic is so much easier to accept than anything else. I wish I could look up more information on this study to see what they used as references with regard to there research
Which white people have you been interacting with??? You need to get out more...meet some intelligent white people or sumting.
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Originally Posted by kevlocks
you see, the funny thing about it is that they (white people) still don't want to admit that they come from us and that we are linked in so many different ways. In this society, logic is so much easier to accept than anything else. I wish I could look up more information on this study to see what they used as references with regard to there research
I agree with Bakes that it is no news that mankind began in Africa; the only people who refuse to accept this are the uneducated fools who are more often than not an embarrassment to even white upper-class society. It would be more correct to say that more people are loath to accept that civilisation started in Africa. However, even more serious is that a great many of those who do accept that in Africa civilisation began, they, influenced by the Bachofen or Engels school of thinking, argue that all that means is that Africa represents the child of human social history while Europe is the epitome of civilised mankind. So when we read topics such as this one, be careful of falling into the trap of reading it in a contextual vacuum.

Otorongo, could you expound on your “parallel evolution?” I’m not sure what you meant by that but I do have some grave suspicions by what I think you are implying. I just want to see if ah wrong, nah.
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