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Before going any further, this article states that there was life in what is present day India before there was civilization in what is present day Europe. This theory is not too hard to believe, since the present day Continents use to all be one gigantic mass of land. The migration to present day india could've been a closer trip for our ancestors as opposed to going straight for Europe. My issue or concern is why the fascination between the India civilization theory over the European civilization theory? Read the article to open up the floor for debate!
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Brian Vastag
for National Geographic News

November 14, 2005
Modern humans migrated out of Africa and into India much earlier than once believed, driving older hominids in present-day India to extinction and creating some of the earliest art and architecture, a new study suggests.

The research places modern humans in India tens of thousands of years before their arrival in Europe.


University of Cambridge researchers Michael Petraglia and Hannah James developed the new theory after analyzing decades' worth of existing fieldwork in India. They outline their research in the journal Current Anthropology.
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I'm just confused as to why this is being treated as news....is that what they saying that this is different from views previously held?

India is closer to sub-saharan Africa than Europe...so not at all hard to fathom.

Agreed. I was hoping someone could gleem some info that I didn't see because it just seems like common sense. I would think that since civilization began in Africa, people who naturally migrate in that direction to populate what is now modern day Asia.

there are few reasons it is news. From what I can see it seems like additional proof ??
and I may be wrong but isnt Europe closer?

problem i have platonic shift took place over millions of years.. human migration being a small fraction of that, i think the issue might be which migration lead to accelerated growth of a civilisation..

True indeed, but who'se to say that the ride could've been a short enought trip in that particular time of tectonic shifting, that the migration could've been don wiht ease!!!


Looking at this map, yes it did happen hundres of millions of years ago, but one cannot cross out the thought that even if there was a GREAT Shift, there could've still been enough time for Man (and I'm not referring ot modern day conept of man, rather Cro-magon or maybe even earlier) to make this journey.

I'm not undserstanding what you guys are talking about...
but scientist also believe the migration out of Africa took place twice...If memory serves me right..

explain to me the shift/civilxzation thing ur talkin bout?

Well, the Pangea concept states that all the continents of the planet use to be one huge peace of land. In geology, it is understood that the earths crusts "floats" on a pool of molten magma. The crust itself is broken into different techtonic plates that shift ever now and then, giving us earthquakes and things like the Tsunami and even volcano eruptions. The theory contends that over a period of time (some say hundreds of millions of years, but who knows for sure), the tetonic plates "shifted" gradually to form what presently have as the continents of planet earth.



Comparing and contrasting maps, it could be very plausible for any life form to cross into different areas if everything was connected as one mass.

possible


i also believe in the whole pangea idea.

Has nothing to do with being closer. And pangaea existed way before any hominids existed. The first migration of proto-Africans went all the way to Australia probably bordering the coasts. Also the water level was lower so many places that are now islands were connected. Those first migrations of people would finally even make it to America.
Those that settled in the middle East would form the Dravidian populations. These would form civilization all the way from the Harappa valley in India to Babylon. Then the Aryans would come and push them out and into Southern india. The Aryans also originate in that area. Some of these Asian populations would migrate and colonize Europe, but they weren't alone. There were some direct migrations from Africa, albeit smaller. This is evidecne d by geentic markers in the European population that show about 2/3rds Asian and 1/3rd African ancestry.

Check out what I found on the National Geographic website!!! It's amazing!!! they make reference to SUNDA, the land/ice mass that made it possible for people to travel from Africa to what is now Australia!!!

(pardon my glee, as I grew up wanting to be a scientist/archeologist, but never got the opportunity to do so )

Atlas of the Human Journey

If you consider the proximity of spain to northen Africa.
yes by far

agreed, but if this is so, then wouldnt you be also saying mankind existed in the Jurassic to cretatous era?
which they didnt seeing evolution theory claims that australopithecines are man's ancestoral beings? only some 6 million years ago?**

I'm of the "belief" that mankind evolved after the split, hence the different genealogies of man - the mechanism of the evolution was in place before the split and each "type of man" was formed according to his environment after the split (adaptation).

Look at some the animals of Australia (marsupials) ;they dont develop as say an animal in Africa would. The Kangaroo for instance.

Isnt the Ice-Age also a part of this?

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**The Genus Homo

People belong to the genus Homo, which first evolved at least 2.3 million to 2.5 million years ago. The earliest members of this genus differed from the australopiths(australopithecines) in at least one important respect—they had larger brains than did their predecessors.

The evolution of the modern human genus can be divided roughly into three periods: early, middle, and late. Species of early Homo resembled gracile australopiths in many ways. Some early Homo species lived until possibly 1.6 million years ago. The period of middle Homo began perhaps between 2 million and 1.8 million years ago, overlapping with the end of early Homo. Species of middle Homo evolved an anatomy much more similar to that of modern humans but had comparatively small brains. The transition from middle to late Homo probably occurred sometime around 200,000 years ago. Species of late Homo evolved large and complex brains and eventually language. Culture also became an increasingly important part of human life during the most recent period of evolution.

Uh uh However, this movement DID have it's influences on the Ice age which came after it, creating the glaciers that allowed man to travel to various parts of the globe including your home away from home, Australia

seen jed...

yow yu realize my fascination with that place?