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I just want to say that


I know a white lesbian couple that adopted two kids when they were just babies. A black child, a mixed child (black and white) ..Well they just recently adopted a third a Korean baby. These kids have gotten the best that any adopted child can ask for. They are both very, very smart, proficient, and athletically inclined which is getting them scholarships for college. I've seen these couple do what most regular parents don't do for their children. These children are in no way cognitively challenged because of this and are totally normal and aware of their parent’s situation.

Gay and Lesbian couples can indeed raise children equally if not better than "regular parents". So then it all comes down to parenting.

Have you guys ever seen one animal raise the offspring of another? because the mother of the other has died? It happens all the time

Think about that

ah gone :)

very impressive to hear a man say that.
good for u :)

some of the drawbacks, howeva, can be

a) ridicule of the chile growing up when folks become aware of parent/guardian sexual orientation

b) is it really good 4 the child watching his/her parents being intimate at times? could this lead 2 a wider generation of gay and lesbian people?

salt

Drawbacks yes! I agree with your (A). But I wonder, with the right communication between parents and kids, the tendency for mirroring their parents should be diminished. This supports my theory that homosexuality is not learned. It is choiced or chromosomed. Your thoughts....

sure there are drawbacks but at the same time what family does not have its quirks or drawbacks?

kids are made fun of and teased about someothing or other, if your family isn;t the tvland 2 parent (woman & man) home, if your clothes are not the trendiest, if your not the brightest, if you wear glasses, etc etc being made fun of as a child or talked about behind your back is very hard to escape it happens.

dbadlad - i agree, being homosexual is not learned!!! nobody sees it and says hey that looks cool i'm gonna be gay from now on and a child is not going to get any gay sublimal type messages from seeing his gay parents give each a quick kiss, hug before going to work etc.

being gay is a choice or a feeling that an individual makes or accepts. nobody can help who they are attracted to, but everybody should have the right to find happiness and sexual fulfillment with another person regardless of sex, race, etc etc

dbadlad and pimptress

i still can't buy the 'inherited' or it's in the chromosone theory y a person chooses their sexual preference. i'm far from a scientist, but i've read articles in the past about the absurdity of a homosexual trait/gene being passed. but even so, regardless of the rite parenting and upbringing, the child is still exposed 2 c'ing their guardians doing the same sex bizness. i'm not closed minded at all and agree that its possible 4 the young one 2 grow up heterosexual. it just seems 2 me 10 times harder when it's thrown in their face in the household day in and out. will also make them more susceptible 2 becoming bisexual, cuz i'm sure they will be very curious 2 imitate their guardians sex life. jus my 2 cents.



salt

one of my closses friend is a lesbian and a single parent ...her lover (who is also a single parent)..and her after 2 years of dating decieded to live together and raise they children together...their kids know of their sexual orientation. It's been 7yrs now... I think that if u communicate with your kids u can make them understand certain things in life.. don't just tell them someting is wrong or right give them and explination too.

I truly don't believe that homosexuality is ah disease, sickness, hand me down from generation to generation. I think it's ah choice and ah prefrence..

my other girlfriends mom was ah boneahfide crack addict..my friend did not go that route she choose to live her own life..

and i think with communication and understanding these kids growing up the these types of parent with come out to be the best they can be...

just my thoughts..

i see a lot of nature vs nurture type arguments here...

anyways...i don't think that they would every really find proof that homosexuality is genetic but there are studies still being done, who knows.

also, maybe the child might get ideas from his parents but he might not, but what's wrong with the child choosing or prefering a same sex partner?

Pimptress, i agree...nuff nature vs. nurture arguments and i think in many ways this is the crux of the matter. As a society, we may never come to a final resolution on this issue and so the question will probably remain with us forever.

Regarding same sex parenting...i do think that it can be handled in a way that results in a healthy, well-adjusted family unit which produces children that are themselves well-rounded and highly effective members of society. Are there unique challenges? Of course there are! Even in the year 2003, many people still struggle with and are at times overwhelmed by the beautiful complexity of sex and sexuality. The religious foundations that gives rise to most of our feelings about sex and sexuality are also a fundamental part of how we make our value and moral judgements on a wide range of issues. Yet, sexuality permeates so many areas of our lives and is so very present that i can fully understand how folks would resist the concept of same sex parenting.

For me, the broader question of human sexuality remains an interesting one. i view the total range of human sexuality as being a "normal" superset with most people falling somewhere between the various (hetero, homo, bi, ae, etc.) points. And, while i do think that there are folks out there who choose to engage in various forms of sexuality, i believe the vast majority of us are born with our particular kind of sexuality.

Anyways, it's good to see that folks are discussing these issues as i think this subject is one of many to which more attention needs to be paid. i've tried to get some dialougue goin on Imix in the past but my efforts haven't borne much fruit. Ah think people fraid to talk bout these things sometimes. If anyone feels like contributing, check out this thread and feel free to add.