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Old 04-12-2006, 07:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is race a useful concept?

Race is this gray area of defining/characterizing people. The word race is relatively new. If race isn't backed by biology, does it really serve a purpose besides to divide people? For example, what makes a person black/African American? Is it if you are 1/16th black or 1/8th....this is arbitrary and not backed by scientific findings? What about people from Pakastan, I think that Pakistan is considered a part Asia (I could be wrong)...but if that's the case, are they Asian? I could go on and on....the point is that the distinction btwn races is not a clear one, but rather this gray area used by people in power for the allocation of resouces more or less.
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226
Race is this gray area of defining/characterizing people. The word race is relatively new. If race isn't backed by biology, does it really serve a purpose besides to divide people? For example, what makes a person black/African American? Is it if you are 1/16th black or 1/8th....this is arbitrary and not backed by scientific findings? What about people from Pakastan, I think that Pakistan is considered a part Asia (I could be wrong)...but if that's the case, are they Asian? I could go on and on....the point is that the distinction btwn races is not a clear one, but rather this gray area used by people in power for the allocation of resouces more or less.
First off... prepare yourself to be informed (by certain imixers) in detail that there is only ONE race... the human race.... what you're referring to is ethnicity.

Secondly... yes Pakistan is part of Asia...as is India. So yes they are Asian... Over here in the UK, people of that ethnic background refer to themselves as Asian... as do the Chinese, Nepalese etc etc... in some instances they further distinguish themselves as being Oriental.
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by VincyJam82
First off... prepare yourself to be informed (by certain imixers) in detail that there is only ONE race... the human race.... what you're referring to is ethnicity.
Yea I know....

But that is my point exactly.... That we are all the same and not a part of a bunch of races.

Pakistan is ethnic yes, but according to the US sensus, african american and asian are races.
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226
Yea I know....

But that is my point exactly.... That we are all the same and not a part of a bunch of races.

Pakistan is ethnic yes, but according to the US sensus, african american and asian are races.
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I think you're missing my point.... but I really can't be assed to explain again. Somebody else will surely take up the baton.
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Old 04-12-2006, 07:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There is no race only ethnicities... the whole race thing was used as construct to decide who would get what..

In true evaluation of people I would say culture and class is more important
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Old 04-12-2006, 08:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Oneshot
There is no race only ethnicities... the whole race thing was used as construct to decide who would get what..

In true evaluation of people I would say culture and class is more important


I agree. Race just meant ethnicity originally. What one could sayis that there are groups who have formed under racial labels and have a common experience because of it. Ethnicities or sociocultural umbrella groups based on common expereinces of racial belief descrimination
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Originally Posted by Otorongo


I agree. Race just meant ethnicity originally. What one could sayis that there are groups who have formed under racial labels and have a common experience because of it. Ethnicities or sociocultural umbrella groups based on common expereinces of racial belief descrimination
But since that is too long to say we will just say "race" and everyone will know what wih talking about.
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The WHITE MAN created the RACE category as his way of MANIPULATING and CONQUERING the masses.
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Originally Posted by Fiyah
But since that is too long to say we will just say "race" and everyone will know what wih talking about.
If people really defined it that way, then it would be fine. But most people still equate race with biological difference.
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA
The WHITE MAN created the RACE category as his way of MANIPULATING and CONQUERING the masses.
There were no Whites when conquering and exploitation of the masses began.. It was geographical exploitation and the need to rationalize it that created the concept of Whites and Blacks.
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Originally Posted by Otorongo
There were no Whites when conquering and exploitation of the masses began.. It was geographical exploitation and the need to rationalize it that created the concept of Whites and Blacks.
Well, it is good to KNOW that you have CONCLUDED that WHITES/EUROPEANS did not exist during ANCIENT NILE CIVILIZATION, cause they were too busy being Neanderthals, somewhere in the region that we called Eastern Europe.

That beings said, the CONCEPT of RACE as we know it today, again, was CREATED by the WHITE MAN for the REASONS that I MENTIONED.

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Old 04-13-2006, 12:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA
Well, it is good to KNOW that you have CONCLUDED that WHITES/EUROPEANS did not exist during ANCIENT NILE CIVILIZATION, cause they were too busy being Neanderthals, somewhere in the region that we called Eastern Europe.
That beings said, the CONCEPT of RACE as we know it today, again, was CREATED by the WHITE MAN for the REASONS that I MENTIONED.
As usual, you are clueless. Whites did not exist. But their ancestors were not neanderthals anymore than neanderthals were your ancestors. And the concept of race or razza originated in other contexts before any type of racism as we know it. And those White ancestors are a part of your ancestry as well, but i doubt you have any Egyptian ancestry, so don't front.
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Originally Posted by Otorongo
As usual, you are clueless. Whites did not exist. But their ancestors were not neanderthals anymore than neanderthals were your ancestors. And the concept of race or razza originated in other contexts before any type of racism as we know it. And those White ancestors are a part of your ancestry as well, but i doubt you have any Egyptian ancestry, so don't front.
You're the overwhelming WINNER of the CLUELESS title....this has ALREADY been ESTABLISHED, over and over and over and over and over, in other quarters.

Again, the WHITE MAN/EUROPEANS are the CREATORS of the CONCEPT of RACE as we know it TODAY for the REASONS that I OUTLINED in my FIRST post.

You can run comments AROUND that FACT all you want, but what I just STATED is the GOSPEL.

Take PRIDE in your NEANDERTHAL man like all WHITE MEN/EUROPEANS do.
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Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA
Well, it is good to KNOW that you have CONCLUDED that WHITES/EUROPEANS did not exist during ANCIENT NILE CIVILIZATION, cause they were too busy being Neanderthals, somewhere in the region that we called Eastern Europe.
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Old 04-13-2006, 01:26 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA
You're the overwhelming WINNER of the CLUELESS title....this has ALREADY been ESTABLISHED, over and over and over and over and over, in other quarters.
You wish.

Again, the WHITE MAN/EUROPEANS are the CREATORS of the CONCEPT of RACE as we know it TODAY for the REASONS that I OUTLINED in my FIRST post.
Europeans, yes, the concept of White didn't evolve until later as a juxtaposition to the concept of negro. And not all Europeans. Just the ones that were involved with slavery. The ideas then spread to other places, European, and non-European.

You can run comments AROUND that FACT all you want, but what I just STATED is the GOSPEL.
As usual, I pointed out where you were wrong. But that should be habit for you now.

Take PRIDE in your NEANDERTHAL man like all WHITE MEN/EUROPEANS do.
No neanderthal in me, but if that is your belief, as a light skinned Black man with European ancestry, you must really hate yourself with all the neanderthal blood running in your veins.

Jokes apart. Neanderthals were theoretically as dark skinned as their cousins the cro-magnons, and grimaldi man (We do not know any of their colors, but we know they were darker than Europeans.). And they existed in Africa as well. So your stupid claim that they are a European population only is foolish.
As for looks, we don't know what hair type they had, their skin color, their eye color, even their lip thickness, so guess what, they look just as close to Africans as they look to Europeans. Your dumbass comments fall short.







Neanderthals went extinct 35,000 years ago. When you can show me a nile civilization that existed during the 32,000 BCE You might have a point.

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