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I think that recess has been given sufficient information to address the question he posed.

While he and others are immersed in their thirst for knowledge, just take my advice on this one and desist for a moment in this particular thread.

ride out like Mansa Moussa for now.

Yep, I THINK you're QUITE CORRECT, so I HEED to your words.

Look AllCaps, your emotionality is getting the better of you. Egypt does not predate Mesopotamia. All those things existed in Mesopotamia. Language, religion and art, predate both civilizations, and they traveled out of Africa with earlier humans than any in known history. So again,your capitalized, emotional claims are without merit. Egypt has plenty of incredible accomplishments without having to be first in everything.

Might i add that the ancient land of Punt(Somalia)was also part of this equation too?

Somalia,Eretria or Coastal Sudan. We still aren't certain about its exact location, but if the ships found are any indication, Sudan or Eretria.

Who is the "We" that aren't sure of it's location?.....Eritrea was part of Abyssinia which was part of the land of Sheeba......Somalia (the horn of Africa) is in the ancient land of Punt,known for it's navigators.................

No concrete evidence for Punt's locaction. It is beleived in Abyssinia.

The evidence is there..maybe some don't want to accept it,that's all.....now if i'm not mistaken,from reading different books,i've learnt that the ancient egyptians regarded themselves as the children of Gods..they believed that they came from Ta Nteru,the land of the Gods which in turn happens to be Punt and again which is presently known as Somalia...they also embarked on expeditions to the lands further south of upper egypt into the land of Ta Seti,the land of the Bow,which we know as Kush in ancient times,but today we call it The Sudan....Punt is historically important to egypt as well as the asian world because they produced incense that these other cultures traded for..the people of Punt were well known for their navigational skills as they traded with peoples in India and China,even lending to the establishment of the first modern Chinese Dynasty-The Shang,which happened to have "African features"....descendents of Punt also went on to explore the mediteranean and founded the Phoenician Empire,another empire with "African features"...the Phoenicians were a maritime power in a time when Europe had not even begun to develop as yet..

Otorongo, do you want to know why you irk people's nerves on this site? It's because you completely disregard any arguments that they bring forth, completely convinced that you, and you alone, are correct. You can't force your perceptions down other people's throat and at the same time, show contempt for what they have to say.

Sure you can, but is it DEFINITIVE??

Very informative topic baring the rhetoric... VP why you arguing with, Oto when you see the yute movement. You just she the light where its dark, don't worry bout he.

You know how stubborn VP is

You comin down to dc this weekend?

ahhhh. out the mouths of babes come such words of insight and wisdom beyond her years!!

The mythology is there, some accept it to easily.

Most Gods were first considered ancestors this is correct.

Incorrect. Yes to the first to, but no definite place has been determined for Punt allthough we know it was on the west coast of the Red Sea.
Among other names.

Here you went into Afrocentric mythology. First, the Shang Dynasty is the third dynasty, and no they were not founded by African immigrants.

More Afrocentric mythology.

In terms of archaeology, language, and religion, there is little to set the Phoenicians apart as markedly different from other local cultures of Canaan. However, they are unique in their remarkable seafaring achievements. Indeed, in the Amarna tablets of the 14th century BC they call themselves Kenaani or Kinaani (Canaanites); and even much later in the 6th century BC, Hecataeus writes that Phoenicia was formerly called χνα, a name Philo of Byblos later adopted into his mythology as his eponym for the Phoenicians: "Khna who was afterwards called Phoinix".

To many archaeologists therefore, the Phoenicians are simply indistinguishable from the descendants of coastal-dwelling Canaanites, who over the centuries developed a particular seagoing culture and skills. But others believe equally firmly, like Herodotus, that the Phoenician culture must have been inspired from an external source. All manner of suggestions have been made: that the Phoenicians were sea-traders from the Land of Punt who co-opted the Canaanite population; or that they were connected with the Minoans; or the Sea Peoples or the Philistines further south; or on the other side of the fence, that they represent the activities of supposed coastal maritime Israelite tribes like Dan.

While the Semitic language of the Phoenicians, and some evidence of invasion at the site of Byblos, suggest origins in the wave of Semitic migration that hit the Fertile Crescent between 2300 and 2100 BC, many scholars, including Sabatino Moscati believe that the Phoenicians evolved from a prior non-Semitic people of the area, suggesting a mixture between the two populations. Historian Gerhard Herm further asserts that, because the Phoenicians' legendary sailing abilities are not well attested before the invasions of the Sea Peoples around 1200 BC, that these Sea Peoples would have merged with the local population to produce the Phoenicians, who seemingly gained these abilities rather suddenly at that time. This idea is backed up by archaeological evidence that the Philistines, often thought of as related to the Sea Peoples, were culturally linked to Mycenaean Greeks, who were also known to be great sailors even in this period.

And so the debate has persisted. Professional archaeologists have now been at work on the origins of the Phoenicians for generations, basing their analysis in the mainstream of excavated sites, the remains of material culture, contemporary texts set into contemporary contexts, and the even more slippery slopes of linguistics. Modern cultural agendas, both personal and national, have been brought to bear. But ultimately, the origins of the Phoenicians are still unknown: where they came from and just when (or if) they arrived, and under what circumstances, are all still energetically disputed.

Some Lebanese, Syrians, Maltese, Tunisians, Algerians and a small percentage of Somalis, along with certain other island folk in the Mediterranean, still consider themselves descendants of Phoenicians.
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If they are so sure of their claims then they can show their evidence. I don't disregard claims backed up with evidence. Many here love making claims because they read somewhere sometime...

But they never verified if the claims were substantiated or speculation. As to all the rest, if you consider pointing out facts, contempt, oh well.