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Some still seem to tussle with the relationship between the two; did one give birth to the other or were they two societies that just traded heavily. Is it really that confusing? I think it is pretty clear. Well, at least they are actually mentioning it. Are they finally going to give Nubia its due?

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But through most of that long history it was eclipsed by nearby Egypt. And because the Nubian language was an unwritten one for most of that time, its civilization is often seen through an Egyptian filter.

An additional problem stems from the constant give-and-take between Egypt and Nubia, which makes it difficult to determine which nation originated specific technologies and cultural styles.

The Nubians are known to have adopted some Egyptian gods and funerary practices, including pyramids, but modern archaeologists suspect some motifs long thought to have been Egyptian might have been Nubian.

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pb...NT01/603130319

Nubia was not a NATION, so we're off to a BAD start

Hmm. Interesting. Powa, expand on this. I am trying to follow your thought on this.

Start following with this.....
Is there a difference between being Nubian and being Ancient Egyptian?

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ul...=003205#000000
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ul...=003050#000000

lol.....waiting fuh de comments...

Well, ELQ has PROVIDED you with some LINKS that I BELIEVE will THOROUGHLY walk you through the NUBIA/EGYPT issue.

If the LINKS do not PROVIDE ANSWERS to why I said NUBIA is not a NATION then I will EXPAND further.

Thanks for the links ELQ. This is what I was wondering on Powa's comments; was it based on semantics, which I clearly understand (just like the word Africa as opposed to Alkabuland (need to check my spelling)) or the actual existence of the gruop from that region who migrated to Eygpt?

Yes and no. Nubia is a flawed term and Ausar and Djehuti are right on that. But at the same time to claim there wasn't an area south of Egypt that was not Egypt and where a parallel civilization did not occur would be false too. From the A-Group to Meroe, etc. there was a culture there and it was not Egyptian. They did share many things in common and Upper Egypt and the area we call Nubia had people that looked the same. The problem is assuming that Egypt just had one look considering the region it was in.

As for earliest. earliest proto-Egyptian civilization predated the earliest we have found in the area we call Nubia.

okay, but you need to delve more deeply into the etymology, but i sense you were just using the generalized concepts so no biggie.

Akebulan is the word that you're looking for but africa and ethiopia are greek words eventhough ethiopia predates africa as a word used to describe ppls from the land we know call africa.

kmt is the word used by ancient egyptians to describe themselves

Do you have the etymology for Akebulan?

Egyptians did not call themselves Kmt.
They called themselves km.tj.w, people of the Black, or more commonly rmT n Km.t, also people of the Black, rmT n Trw, people of the gods, or just rmT, the people.

Recess, if you want to make a DISTINCTION, it would be KEMET/KUSH instead of EGYPT/Nubia.

Got it. Thanks.

Yes. Thanks for correcting the spelling! :-)

Yes.

sigh......

Again, KM.T means LAND of the BLACKS or the BLACKS in Mdw Ntr (Medew Netcher - the language of the ancient Kemetians)) which means DIVINE SPEECH.

If you're a bit confused, Ntr Mdw (Medew Netcher) is what you know as HIEROGYLPHS.

So KEMET, which you know as EGYPT, was called LAND OF THE BLACKS or THE BLACKS by the ANCIENT AFRICANS of the NILE REGION, which encompassed KEMET and KUSH.

Km.T just means "the Black". And it is singular. It has been used to refer to the Black Land, And also one of the Gods who also is refered to the Black,the great Black Km.wr, Osiris. It was the Nile Delta whith its rich soil that gave it its name. Same as Ta-Meri, the plentiful/tilled land. Kush was known as Ta-Seti, The land of the Bow, and no, they were not both Km.T.