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D socarat · 02-26-2005, 04:55 PM

although it is not historicaly stated by many there are strong evidence that support that the islands of the caribeans and americans was first viewed by africans not europeans or asian, or native americans... but beforei list some of the evidence that i found i would like to know how yall feel about this topic.. wether yu agree or disagree..

Toppa_Toppa · 02-26-2005, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by D socarat

although it is not historicaly stated by many there are strong evidence that support that the islands of the caribeans and americans was first viewed by africans not europeans or asian, or native americans... but beforei list some of the evidence that i found i would like to know how yall feel about this topic.. wether yu agree or disagree..

Yeah I'm doing a course in World History and it was part of our reading. What I gathered (when I was concentrating on what I was reading) was that it was mostly accidental I think?

No it was that it wasn't for commercial purposes as was done with the Europeans. Yeah I think that's it.

VINCYPOWA · 02-26-2005, 06:10 PM

Before you GUYS get ah LIKKLE GIDDY, I suggest that you CLICK on the LINK below.

SOMEONE DISCOVERED the WORLD, I WONDER WHO IT IS?????

D socarat · 02-26-2005, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA

Before you GUYS get ah LIKKLE GIDDY, I suggest that you CLICK on the LINK below.

SOMEONE DISCOVERED the WORLD, I WONDER WHO IT IS?????

funny how all of a sudden things changed from columbus to native american now the Asians ..... but your right that the standard view point out rite now that asians were here first but i think that is a "Dominate ideology" which is now used to prevent the truth from bein told ......

i personaly agree with this thesis the Galdwin thesis: first people in americans was asians from Africa.

1st African

D socarat · 02-26-2005, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA

Before you GUYS get ah LIKKLE GIDDY, I suggest that you CLICK on the LINK below.

SOMEONE DISCOVERED the WORLD, I WONDER WHO IT IS?????

furthermore i dont take everyting to heart that i see on internet i do my maccoin through various books.... mabe a . org site but def not .com!

http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/vansertima.html

but if we must do web sites here

ps the author Van Sertima book is good call "they came before columbus"

Oneshot · 02-26-2005, 07:41 PM

so why we doh have chinese statues in Mexico or Brazil?

saveoursoca · 02-26-2005, 08:23 PM

We dont have chinese statues but we do have Pyramids like in egypt.

elq · 02-27-2005, 02:15 AM

If you are referring to the Olmec then you are right.
Africans (we'll just use that term for now) did have well documented travel to the "New World" before Cris Colon.

Dutty · 02-27-2005, 02:21 AM

Christopher Culo discovered a civilized, advanced world for the Europeans only that outpaced Europe at the time..

WadadliEmpress · 03-03-2005, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Oneshot

so why we doh have chinese statues in Mexico or Brazil?

Thank you, caus eif i read right, and ill have to go back to get the info, but in many of the temples in south AMERICA there are depictions of African travelers on the walls interior

Otorongo · 03-09-2005, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by D socarat

although it is not historicaly stated by many there are strong evidence that support that the islands of the caribeans and americans was first viewed by africans not europeans or asian, or native americans... but beforei list some of the evidence that i found i would like to know how yall feel about this topic.. wether yu agree or disagree..

I doubt it. The earliest remains ever found on the islands seem to be of Amazonian indigenous populations.

Otorongo · 03-09-2005, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA

Before you GUYS get ah LIKKLE GIDDY, I suggest that you CLICK on the LINK below.

SOMEONE DISCOVERED the WORLD, I WONDER WHO IT IS?????

His claims have been shot down as well.
Debunking Menzies
Gavin’s Fantasy Land, 1421: The Year China ...

Otorongo · 03-09-2005, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by D socarat

furthermore i dont take everyting to heart that i see on internet i do my maccoin through various books.... mabe a . org site but def not .com!

http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/vansertima.html

but if we must do web sites here

ps the author Van Sertima book is good call "they came before columbus"

Ivan Van Sertima's theories have never held up to serious scrutiny.

Robbing Native American Cultures: Van Sertima's Afrocentricity and the Olmecs
Goodbye Columbus? The Pseudohistory of Who Discovered America
Plant Evidence for Contact Between Africa and the New World

Ananci_7 · 03-09-2005, 10:51 PM

Otorongo, I refer you to my answer on "African Expeditions to the Americas"

Otorongo · 03-11-2005, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Ananci_7

Otorongo, I refer you to my answer on "African Expeditions to the Americas"

I already responded.

02-26-2005, 04:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
D socarat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 497 Credits: 158	"New World"was Discovered By people who look like me! although it is not historicaly stated by many there are strong evidence that support that the islands of the caribeans and americans was first viewed by africans not europeans or asian, or native americans... but beforei list some of the evidence that i found i would like to know how yall feel about this topic.. wether yu agree or disagree..

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