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    My Black Women...

    Don't know what section this should go in but this is definetly a good read!

    SUBJECT: WHITE GIRL ARTICLE REC'D IN SISTER2SISTER MAGAZINE. THE
    ORIGINAL IS FIRST, FOLLOWED BY THE RESPONSE. THIS IS DEEP!! SHE ASKED FOR
    A
    RESPONSE FROM A BLACK MALE AND SHE GOT IT!! SO GREAT TO FIND

    DEAR JAMIE,

    I'M SORRY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE SOME OF YOUR BLACK MALE
    READERS. I AM A WHITE FEMALE WHO IS ENGAGED TO A BLACK MALE. GOOD
    LOOKING, EDUCATED AND LOVING. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND ALLOT OF BLACK
    FEMALES ATTITUDES ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP. MY MAN DECIDED HE WANTED ME
    BECAUSE THE PICKINGS AMONGST BLACK WOMEN WERE SLIM TO NONE. AS HE
    STATED, THEY WERE EITHER TOO FAT, TOO LOUD, TOO MEAN, TOO
    ARGUMENTATIVE, TOO NEEDY, TOO MATERIALISTIC AND CARRY TO MUCH EXCESS
    BAGGAGE.....BEFORE I BECAME ENGAGED, WHENEVER I WOULD GO OUT I
    WAS CONSTANTLY APPROACHED BY BLACK MEN THAT WANTED TO TAKE ME OUT TO
    WINE AND DINE ME AND GIVE ME THE WORLD. IF BLACK WOMEN ARE SO UP IN
    ARMS ABOUT US BEING WITH THEIR MEN, WHY DON'T THEY LOOK AT THEMSELVES
    AND MAKE SOME CHANGES. I AM TIRED OF THE DIRTY LOOKS I GET AND SNIDE
    REMARKS WHEN WE ARE OUT IN PUBLIC. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOME BLACK
    MEN ABOUT WHY WE ARE SO APPEALING AND COVETED BY THEM. BRYANT GUMBLE
    JUST LEFT HIS WIFE OF 26 YEARS FOR ONE OF US. CHARLES BARKLEY, SCOTTIE
    PIPPEN, TYSON BECKFORD, MONTEL WILLIAMS, QUINCY JONES, JAMES EARL
    JONES, HARRY BELAFONTE, SYDNEY POITIER, KOFI ANAN, CUBA GOODING JR.,
    DON CORNELIUS, BERRY GORDY, BILLY BLANKS, LARRY FISHBURNE, WESLEY
    SNIPES. I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT RIGHT NOW I AM A LITTLE ANGRY. DON'T
    BE SO MAD AT US WHITE WOMEN BECAUSE SO MANY OF YOUR MEN WANT US. GET
    YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND LEARN FROM US, AND WE MY LEAD YOU TO TREAT YOUR
    MEN BETTER. IF I AM WRONG THEN BLACK MEN LET ME KNOW.

    SIGNED, DISGUSTED WHITE GIRL IN VA.



    ************************************************************ ********************


    A RESPONSE FROM ONE OF OUR BLACK PRINCE

    DEAR JAMIE,

    I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO A LETTER WRITTEN BY A DISGUSTED WHITE GIRL.
    FIRST OF ALL LET ME START BY SAYING THAT I AM A 28 YEAR OLD BLACK MAN.
    I GRADUATED FROM ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS UNIVERSITIES IN ATLANTA,
    GA. WITH A BACHELOR OF ARTS DEGREE IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT. I HAVE A
    GOOD JOB AT A MAJOR CORPORATION AND HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED A HOUSE. SO
    I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE AMONG THE RANKS OF SUCCESSFUL BLACK MEN. I WILL
    NOT USE MY PRECIOUS TIME TO SLANDER WHITE PEOPLE. I JUST WANT TO SET
    THE RECORD STRAIGHT OF WHY BLACK MEN DATE WHITE WOMEN.

    BACK IN THE DAY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WHY BLACK MEN DATED WHITE
    WOMEN WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE CONSIDERED EASY. THE BLACK GIRLS IN MY
    NEIGHBORHOOD WERE RAISED IN THE CHURCH. THEY WERE VERY STRICT ABOUT
    WHEN THEY LOST THEIR VIRGINITY AND WHO THEY LOST IT TO. BECAUSE OF OUR
    IMPATIENCE TO WAIT, BROTHERS WOULD LOOK FOR SOMEONE WHO WOULD GIVE IT
    UP EASY WITHOUT TOO MUCH HASSLE, SO THEY TURNED TO THE WHITE GIRLS.
    NOWADAYS, IN MY OPINION, A LOT OF BROTHERS DATE WHITE WOMEN BECAUSE
    THEY ARE DOCILE AND EASY TO CONTROL.

    A LOT OF BLACK MEN, BECAUSE OF THEIR INSECURITIES, FEARS AND OVERALL
    WEAKNESS, HAVE BECOME INTIMIDATED BY THE STRENGTH OF OUR BLACK WOMEN.
    WE ARE AFRAID THAT OUR WOMEN WILL BE MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN US, MAKE MORE
    MONEY THAN US, DRIVE BETTER CARS AND OWN BIGGER HOUSES. BECAUSE OF THIS
    FEAR MANY BLACK MEN LOOK FOR A MORE DOCILE WOMAN. SOMEONE WE CAN
    CONTROL. I HAVE TALKED TO NUMEROUS BLACK MEN AND THEY CONTINUOUSLY
    COMMENT ON HOW EASY IT IS TO CONTROL AND WALK OVER THEIR WHITE
    WOMEN. I JUST WANT TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.

    I WANT THE DISGUSTED WHITE GIRL TO KNOW NOT ALL SUCCESSFUL BLACK MEN
    DATE WHITE WOMEN. BROTHERS LIKE AHMAD RASHAD, DENZEL WASHINGTON,
    MICHEAL JORDON, MORRIS CHESTNUT, WILL SMITH, BLAIR UNDERWOOD, SAMUEL
    JACKSON, CHRIS ROCK ALL MARRIED STRONG BLACK WOMEN. AND TO FLIP THE
    SCRIPT, THERE ARE NUMEROUS WHITE MEN IN AND OUT OF THE SPOT LIGHT, WHO
    OPENLY OR SECRETLY DESIRE BLACK WOMEN OVER WHITE WOMEN. TED DANSON,
    ROBERT DENIRO, DAVID BOWIE JUST TO NAME A FEW.

    I JUST DON'T WANT DISGUSTED WHITE GIRL TO BE MISINFORMED. STOP THINKING
    BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE YOU ARE SOME TYPE OF GODDESS. REMEMBER WHEN BLACK
    EGYPTIAN QUEENS LIKE HATSHEPSUT AND NITORCRIS WERE RULING DYNASTIES AND
    ARMIES OF MEN IN EGYPT, YOU WERE OVER IN THE CAVES OF EUROPE EATING RAW
    MEAT AND BEATING EACH OTHER OVER THE HEAD WITH CLUBS. READ YOUR
    HISTORY, IT WAS THE BLACK WOMAN THAT TAUGHT YOU HOW TO COOK AND SEASON
    YOUR FOOD. IT WAS THE BLACK WOMAN THAT TAUGHT YOU HOW TO RAISE YOUR
    CHILDREN. IT WAS THE BLACK WOMAN WHO WERE BREAST FEEDING AND RAISING
    BABIES DURING SLAVERY. IT WAS THE BLACK WOMAN THAT ENDURED WATCHING
    THEIR FATHERS, HUSBANDS AND CHILDREN BEATEN, KILLED AND THROWN IN JAIL.
    BLACK WOMEN WERE BORN WITH TWO STRIKES AGAINST THEM: BEING BLACK AND
    BEING A WOMEN. AND THROUGH ALL THIS, STILL THEY RISE!

    IT IS BECAUSE OF THE BLACK WOMEN'S STRENGTH, ELEGANCE, POWER, LOVE AND
    BEAUTY THAT I COULD NEVER DATE ANYONE EXCEPT MY BLACK QUEEN. IT IS NOT
    JUST THE OUTER BEAUTY THAT CAPTIVATES AND DRAWS ME TO THEM. IT IS NOT
    THE FACT THAT THEY COME IN ALL SHAPES, SIZES, COLORS AND SHADES THAT I
    LOVE THEM. THEIR INNER BEAUTY IS WHAT I FIND MOST APPEALING ABOUT THEM.
    THEIR STRONG SPIRIT, LOVING AND NURTURING SOULS, THEIR INTEGRITY, THEIR
    ABILITY TO OVERCOME GREAT OBSTACLES, THEIR WILLINGNESS TO STAND FOR
    WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN, AND THEIR DETERMINATION TO SUCCEED AND REACH
    THEIR HIGHEST POTENTIAL WHILE ENDURING GREAT PAIN AND SUFFERING, IS WHY
    I HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH BLACK WOMEN.

    I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT YOUR ANGER IS GEARED MORE TOWARD JEALOUSY AND
    ENVY, THAN SNOTTY LOOKS. IF THIS WERE NOT SO, THEN WHY DO YOU
    CONTINUOUSLY GO TANNING SALONS TO DARKEN YOUR SKIN? IF YOU ARE SO PROUD
    TO BE WHITE, THEN WHY DON'T YOU JUST BE HAPPY WITH YOUR PALE SKIN? WHY
    DO YOU CONTINUE TO INJECT YOUR LIPS, HIPS AND BREAST WITH UNNATURAL AND
    DANGEROUS SUBSTANCES SO YOU CAN LOOK FULLER AND MORE VOLUPTUOUS? I
    THINK THAT YOUR ANGER IS REALLY A RESULT OF YOU WANTING TO HAVE WHAT
    BLACK WOMEN HAS.

    BOTTOM LINE: IF I WAS LOOKING FOR A DOCILE WOMAN; SOMEONE I CAN WALK
    OVER AND CONTROL, I WOULD GIVE YOU A CALL. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I AM
    LOOKING FOR A VIRTUOUS WOMAN. SOMEONE THAT CAN BE A GOOD WIFE AND
    MOTHER TO MY CHILDREN. SOMEONE WHO CAN BE MY BEST FRIEND AND UNDERSTAND
    MY STRUGGLES. I AM LOOKING FOR A SOUL MATE. I AM LOOKING FOR A SISTER
    AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU DO NOT FIT THE BILL. I GUESS YOU ARE JUST S.O.L.
    NO OFFENSE TAKEN, NONE GIVEN.

    SIGNED,
    BLACK ROYALTY...MR DARRELL LIGE



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    RE: My Black Women...

    >Don't know what section this should
    >go in but this is
    >definetly a good read!
    >
    >SUBJECT: WHITE GIRL ARTICLE REC'D IN
    >SISTER2SISTER MAGAZINE. THE
    >ORIGINAL IS FIRST, FOLLOWED BY THE
    >RESPONSE. THIS IS DEEP!! SHE
    >ASKED FOR
    >A
    >RESPONSE FROM A BLACK MALE AND
    >SHE GOT IT!! SO GREAT
    >TO FIND
    >
    >DEAR JAMIE,
    >
    >I'M SORRY, BUT I WOULD LIKE
    >TO CHALLENGE SOME OF YOUR
    >BLACK MALE
    >READERS. I AM A WHITE FEMALE
    >WHO IS ENGAGED TO A
    >BLACK MALE. GOOD
    >LOOKING, EDUCATED AND LOVING. I JUST
    >DON'T UNDERSTAND ALLOT OF BLACK
    >
    >FEMALES ATTITUDES ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP. MY
    >MAN DECIDED HE WANTED ME
    >
    >BECAUSE THE PICKINGS AMONGST BLACK WOMEN
    >WERE SLIM TO NONE. AS
    >HE
    >STATED, THEY WERE EITHER TOO FAT,
    >TOO LOUD, TOO MEAN, TOO
    >
    >ARGUMENTATIVE, TOO NEEDY, TOO MATERIALISTIC AND
    >CARRY TO MUCH EXCESS
    >BAGGAGE.....BEFORE I BECAME ENGAGED, WHENEVER I
    >WOULD GO OUT I
    >WAS CONSTANTLY APPROACHED BY BLACK MEN
    >THAT WANTED TO TAKE ME
    >OUT TO
    >WINE AND DINE ME AND GIVE
    >ME THE WORLD. IF BLACK
    >WOMEN ARE SO UP IN
    >
    >ARMS ABOUT US BEING WITH THEIR
    >MEN, WHY DON'T THEY LOOK
    >AT THEMSELVES
    >AND MAKE SOME CHANGES. I AM
    >TIRED OF THE DIRTY LOOKS
    >I GET AND SNIDE
    >REMARKS WHEN WE ARE OUT IN
    >PUBLIC. I WOULD LIKE TO
    >HEAR FROM SOME BLACK
    >MEN ABOUT WHY WE ARE SO
    >APPEALING AND COVETED BY THEM.
    >BRYANT GUMBLE
    >JUST LEFT HIS WIFE OF 26
    >YEARS FOR ONE OF US.
    >CHARLES BARKLEY, SCOTTIE
    >PIPPEN, TYSON BECKFORD, MONTEL WILLIAMS, QUINCY
    >JONES, JAMES EARL
    >JONES, HARRY BELAFONTE, SYDNEY POITIER, KOFI
    >ANAN, CUBA GOODING JR.,
    >DON CORNELIUS, BERRY GORDY, BILLY BLANKS,
    >LARRY FISHBURNE, WESLEY
    >SNIPES. I COULD GO ON AND
    >ON, BUT RIGHT NOW I
    >AM A LITTLE ANGRY. DON'T
    >
    >BE SO MAD AT US WHITE
    >WOMEN BECAUSE SO MANY OF
    >YOUR MEN WANT US. GET
    >
    >YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND LEARN FROM
    >US, AND WE MY LEAD
    >YOU TO TREAT YOUR
    >MEN BETTER. IF I AM WRONG
    >THEN BLACK MEN LET ME
    >KNOW.
    >
    >SIGNED, DISGUSTED WHITE GIRL IN VA.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >************************************************************ ********************
    >
    >
    >A RESPONSE FROM ONE OF OUR
    >BLACK PRINCE
    >
    >DEAR JAMIE,
    >
    >I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO
    >A LETTER WRITTEN BY A
    >DISGUSTED WHITE GIRL.
    >FIRST OF ALL LET ME START
    >BY SAYING THAT I AM
    >A 28 YEAR OLD BLACK
    >MAN.
    >I GRADUATED FROM ONE OF THE
    >MOST PRESTIGIOUS UNIVERSITIES IN ATLANTA,
    >
    >GA. WITH A BACHELOR OF ARTS
    >DEGREE IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT. I
    >HAVE A
    >GOOD JOB AT A MAJOR CORPORATION
    >AND HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED A
    >HOUSE. SO
    >I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE AMONG
    >THE RANKS OF SUCCESSFUL BLACK
    >MEN. I WILL
    >NOT USE MY PRECIOUS TIME TO
    >SLANDER WHITE PEOPLE. I JUST
    >WANT TO SET
    >THE RECORD STRAIGHT OF WHY BLACK
    >MEN DATE WHITE WOMEN.
    >
    >BACK IN THE DAY, ONE OF
    >THE BIGGEST REASONS WHY BLACK
    >MEN DATED WHITE
    >WOMEN WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE CONSIDERED
    >EASY. THE BLACK GIRLS IN
    >MY
    >NEIGHBORHOOD WERE RAISED IN THE CHURCH.
    >THEY WERE VERY STRICT ABOUT
    >
    >WHEN THEY LOST THEIR VIRGINITY AND
    >WHO THEY LOST IT TO.
    >BECAUSE OF OUR
    >IMPATIENCE TO WAIT, BROTHERS WOULD LOOK
    >FOR SOMEONE WHO WOULD GIVE
    >IT
    >UP EASY WITHOUT TOO MUCH HASSLE,
    >SO THEY TURNED TO THE
    >WHITE GIRLS.
    >NOWADAYS, IN MY OPINION, A LOT
    >OF BROTHERS DATE WHITE WOMEN
    >BECAUSE
    >THEY ARE DOCILE AND EASY TO
    >CONTROL.
    >
    >A LOT OF BLACK MEN, BECAUSE
    >OF THEIR INSECURITIES, FEARS AND
    >OVERALL
    >WEAKNESS, HAVE BECOME INTIMIDATED BY THE
    >STRENGTH OF OUR BLACK WOMEN.
    >
    >WE ARE AFRAID THAT OUR WOMEN
    >WILL BE MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN
    >US, MAKE MORE
    >MONEY THAN US, DRIVE BETTER CARS
    >AND OWN BIGGER HOUSES. BECAUSE
    >OF THIS
    >FEAR MANY BLACK MEN LOOK FOR
    >A MORE DOCILE WOMAN. SOMEONE
    >WE CAN
    >CONTROL. I HAVE TALKED TO NUMEROUS
    >BLACK MEN AND THEY CONTINUOUSLY
    >
    >COMMENT ON HOW EASY IT IS
    >TO CONTROL AND WALK OVER
    >THEIR WHITE
    >WOMEN. I JUST WANT TO SET
    >THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
    >
    >I WANT THE DISGUSTED WHITE GIRL
    >TO KNOW NOT ALL SUCCESSFUL
    >BLACK MEN
    >DATE WHITE WOMEN. BROTHERS LIKE AHMAD
    >RASHAD, DENZEL WASHINGTON,
    >MICHEAL JORDON, MORRIS CHESTNUT, WILL SMITH,
    >BLAIR UNDERWOOD, SAMUEL
    >JACKSON, CHRIS ROCK ALL MARRIED STRONG
    >BLACK WOMEN. AND TO FLIP
    >THE
    >SCRIPT, THERE ARE NUMEROUS WHITE MEN
    >IN AND OUT OF THE
    >SPOT LIGHT, WHO
    >OPENLY OR SECRETLY DESIRE BLACK WOMEN
    >OVER WHITE WOMEN. TED DANSON,
    >
    >ROBERT DENIRO, DAVID BOWIE JUST TO
    >NAME A FEW.
    >
    >I JUST DON'T WANT DISGUSTED WHITE
    >GIRL TO BE MISINFORMED. STOP
    >THINKING
    >BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE YOU ARE
    >SOME TYPE OF GODDESS. REMEMBER
    >WHEN BLACK
    >EGYPTIAN QUEENS LIKE HATSHEPSUT AND NITORCRIS
    >WERE RULING DYNASTIES AND
    >ARMIES OF MEN IN EGYPT, YOU
    >WERE OVER IN THE CAVES
    >OF EUROPE EATING RAW
    >MEAT AND BEATING EACH OTHER OVER
    >THE HEAD WITH CLUBS. READ
    >YOUR
    >HISTORY, IT WAS THE BLACK WOMAN
    >THAT TAUGHT YOU HOW TO
    >COOK AND SEASON
    >YOUR FOOD. IT WAS THE BLACK
    >WOMAN THAT TAUGHT YOU HOW
    >TO RAISE YOUR
    >CHILDREN. IT WAS THE BLACK WOMAN
    >WHO WERE BREAST FEEDING AND
    >RAISING
    >BABIES DURING SLAVERY. IT WAS THE
    >BLACK WOMAN THAT ENDURED WATCHING
    >
    >THEIR FATHERS, HUSBANDS AND CHILDREN BEATEN,
    >KILLED AND THROWN IN JAIL.
    >
    >BLACK WOMEN WERE BORN WITH TWO
    >STRIKES AGAINST THEM: BEING BLACK
    >AND
    >BEING A WOMEN. AND THROUGH ALL
    >THIS, STILL THEY RISE!
    >
    >IT IS BECAUSE OF THE BLACK
    >WOMEN'S STRENGTH, ELEGANCE, POWER, LOVE
    >AND
    >BEAUTY THAT I COULD NEVER DATE
    >ANYONE EXCEPT MY BLACK QUEEN.
    >IT IS NOT
    >JUST THE OUTER BEAUTY THAT CAPTIVATES
    >AND DRAWS ME TO THEM.
    >IT IS NOT
    >THE FACT THAT THEY COME IN
    >ALL SHAPES, SIZES, COLORS AND
    >SHADES THAT I
    >LOVE THEM. THEIR INNER BEAUTY IS
    >WHAT I FIND MOST APPEALING
    >ABOUT THEM.
    >THEIR STRONG SPIRIT, LOVING AND NURTURING
    >SOULS, THEIR INTEGRITY, THEIR
    >ABILITY TO OVERCOME GREAT OBSTACLES, THEIR
    >WILLINGNESS TO STAND FOR
    >WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN, AND THEIR
    >DETERMINATION TO SUCCEED AND REACH
    >
    >THEIR HIGHEST POTENTIAL WHILE ENDURING GREAT
    >PAIN AND SUFFERING, IS WHY
    >
    >I HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH
    >BLACK WOMEN.
    >
    >I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT YOUR ANGER
    >IS GEARED MORE TOWARD JEALOUSY
    >AND
    >ENVY, THAN SNOTTY LOOKS. IF THIS
    >WERE NOT SO, THEN WHY
    >DO YOU
    >CONTINUOUSLY GO TANNING SALONS TO DARKEN
    >YOUR SKIN? IF YOU ARE
    >SO PROUD
    >TO BE WHITE, THEN WHY DON'T
    >YOU JUST BE HAPPY WITH
    >YOUR PALE SKIN? WHY
    >DO YOU CONTINUE TO INJECT YOUR
    >LIPS, HIPS AND BREAST WITH
    >UNNATURAL AND
    >DANGEROUS SUBSTANCES SO YOU CAN LOOK
    >FULLER AND MORE VOLUPTUOUS? I
    >
    >THINK THAT YOUR ANGER IS REALLY
    >A RESULT OF YOU WANTING
    >TO HAVE WHAT
    >BLACK WOMEN HAS.
    >
    >BOTTOM LINE: IF I WAS LOOKING
    >FOR A DOCILE WOMAN; SOMEONE
    >I CAN WALK
    >OVER AND CONTROL, I WOULD GIVE
    >YOU A CALL. BUT UNFORTUNATELY,
    >I AM
    >LOOKING FOR A VIRTUOUS WOMAN. SOMEONE
    >THAT CAN BE A GOOD
    >WIFE AND
    >MOTHER TO MY CHILDREN. SOMEONE WHO
    >CAN BE MY BEST FRIEND
    >AND UNDERSTAND
    >MY STRUGGLES. I AM LOOKING FOR
    >A SOUL MATE. I AM
    >LOOKING FOR A SISTER
    >AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU DO NOT FIT
    >THE BILL. I GUESS YOU
    >ARE JUST S.O.L.
    >NO OFFENSE TAKEN, NONE GIVEN.
    >
    >SIGNED,
    >BLACK ROYALTY...MR DARRELL LIGE


    As badly as I wanted to respond to the completely biased and disillusioned opinion of “Why black men date white women?” I wanted to commend you for “Educating the Angry white girl”. Everyday I thank God for blessing me with the color of my skin, the heritage of my forefathers, the shape and form of my figure, and the strength that lies within. I am who I am because of the millions of Beautiful Black women who have preceded me. It is irrelevant, which black actors date white women or which ones married one. What is truly sad and unfortunate is that her man only valid reason for dating her because "the pickings amongst black women were slim to none" and NOT BE BECAUSE HE LOVED AND CHERISHED HER ABOVE ALL OTHERS. It is truly sad when a brother can only love a woman (white or other) ONLY another after finding fault within his own. In truth his problem is not with black women but with being BLACK himself and that is a bigger issue than I’d care to address.

    Signed Just one of the Beautiful Black Queens,
    Yuka




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