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Old 04-02-2004, 12:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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America and It's "Interests".

So last night I was watching a documentary on PBS about the Genocide that happened in Rwanada 10 years ago. If you think Iraqi's dragging 4 bodies through the street is bad, you need to watch this. I mean black people killing black people senselessly. This makes the Middle East look like childs play. So, basically the US government did nothing, and 800,000 people were hacked to death. Imagin, 5000 people slaughtered in a church and 1 little girl survived. She had to lay amongst the dead and then she had to hide in that church for 43 days! Her fingers on her left hand hacked off! One woman was snuck out of the country to Washington to let America know what was going on because they did not believe there was an actual genocide taking place and they told her, "America has no friends in the world, only interests and they have no interests in Rwanada, therfore there is no incentive to send in troops." As discouraging as that statement is, it is so true. America only sticks it's nose in when there could be a benefit to them.

This is where I ask myself how could they call America the land of the brave when they could turn the other way while 800,000 people are slaughtered like animals. And everyone wants to run to America cuz it's so "great"? This is why I say I am moving back to Trinidad. As one of the worlds "Superpowers", they sure don't act like it. And the stench of the hypocracy in this country makes my eyes run water.
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US is trying really hard to dominate the world, but dat will not last for long. Also Trinidad is not dat safe, I going for tobago cuz if someting start my boat right dere for me to go to ah next island.
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Old 04-02-2004, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: America and It's "Interests".

the same could be said bout the UN..


Originally posted by Honikane
So last night I was watching a documentary on PBS about the Genocide that happened in Rwanada 10 years ago. If you think Iraqi's dragging 4 bodies through the street is bad, you need to watch this. I mean black people killing black people senselessly. This makes the Middle East look like childs play. So, basically the US government did nothing, and 800,000 people were hacked to death. Imagin, 5000 people slaughtered in a church and 1 little girl survived. She had to lay amongst the dead and then she had to hide in that church for 43 days! Her fingers on her left hand hacked off! One woman was snuck out of the country to Washington to let America know what was going on because they did not believe there was an actual genocide taking place and they told her, "America has no friends in the world, only interests and they have no interests in Rwanada, therfore there is no incentive to send in troops." As discouraging as that statement is, it is so true. America only sticks it's nose in when there could be a benefit to them.

This is where I ask myself how could they call America the land of the brave when they could turn the other way while 800,000 people are slaughtered like animals. And everyone wants to run to America cuz it's so "great"? This is why I say I am moving back to Trinidad. As one of the worlds "Superpowers", they sure don't act like it. And the stench of the hypocracy in this country makes my eyes run water.
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Old 04-02-2004, 03:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally posted by batadog
US is trying really hard to dominate the world, but dat will not last for long. Also Trinidad is not dat safe, I going for tobago cuz if someting start my boat right dere for me to go to ah next island.
lol ah eh wah laugh eh but is ah original batadog ah seein they wayyyyyyyy


honikane i understand where u coming from , but something to think about , if i come to a land gain what i want while i am in that land things are goin on around the world that i have an opportunity to do something about,but i stand by an justpoint fingers get what i want an leave what is that ? its like sayin i am against drugs but i let a drug dealer pay my way thru college . same hypocracy all around . where do u think u can have a better chance to help the ppl of africa in trini or america ? goin back to trini benifits u but its like u just standing by just like the american gov't .
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Old 04-02-2004, 04:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally posted by point-man
lol ah eh wah laugh eh but is ah original batadog ah seein they wayyyyyyyy


honikane i understand where u coming from , but something to think about , if i come to a land gain what i want while i am in that land things are goin on around the world that i have an opportunity to do something about,but i stand by an justpoint fingers get what i want an leave what is that ? its like sayin i am against drugs but i let a drug dealer pay my way thru college . same hypocracy all around . where do u think u can have a better chance to help the ppl of africa in trini or america ? goin back to trini benifits u but its like u just standing by just like the american gov't .

Point, really and truly i don't think honikane or we as a minority representative would have changed Americas foreign policies towards Rwanda....so if one feels obliged to return to their native country i do not see how that they are being hypocritical by abandoning a country (usa) who's foreign policies are only aligned to issues which serve their own self interests.
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Originally posted by Kamasutra
Point, really and truly i don't think honikane or we as a minority representative would have changed Americas foreign policies towards Rwanda....so if one feels obliged to return to their native country i do not see how that they are being hypocritical by abandoning a country (usa) who's foreign policies are only aligned to issues which serve their own self interests.
i just used the hypocracy as an example of how it goes both ways, i ha nothin against somebody goin back trini or wayever .
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Originally posted by point-man
i just used the hypocracy as an example of how it goes both ways, i ha nothin against somebody goin back trini or wayever .
point well taken ......

btw the summer coming you ready to shoot some bball...
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Originally posted by Kamasutra
point well taken ......

btw the summer coming you ready to shoot some bball...
i ready i waitin fuh the big imix game ah hearing bout with ny versus the outta towners
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Old 04-03-2004, 01:08 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well Honikane

Now you know the true nature of the US and for that matter the rest of Europe (don’t think the actions of France have anything to do with humanitarianism)

The actions of these states have never had anything to do with the ideals they publicly claim to represent. If you’re looking for that then I suggest that you look at some traditional African states and monarchs like King Tenkamenin or Pharaoh Akhenaten or the concept of Ma’at. Otherwise, well……

Historically, the aim of Europe and Euro-America has been one thing and one thing only since the time of the Roman Empire – expansionism. All they have EVER been interested in was to seize and control as much land as possible in order to enrich themselves thereby becoming more and more powerful. Thus, the only places they have been interested in are those places that are rich in such minerals as oil, cobalt, uranium, manganese, diamonds, gold, etc. Anytime, and I mean anytime you try to rationalise political, economic or military decisions made by them, always read them in that context. There is also a strong fear factor, a fear that comes with the realisation that whites account for only a very tiny minority of the world’s population and in numbers that are getting less and less every decade (I strongly advise you to study the theories of such scholars as Dr Frances Cress Welsing and Prof Cheikh Anta Diop).

So forget all this hype about being champions of democracy and human rights; that’s for the gullible. Even in the US it has only ever applied to those who stayed WITHIN the parameters of the dictates of Eurocentrism (and as you know, if your skin is of a certain hue, even then it is not a given).
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Originally posted by Ananci_7
Well Honikane

Now you know the true nature of the US and for that matter the rest of Europe (don’t think the actions of France have anything to do with humanitarianism)

The actions of these states have never had anything to do with the ideals they publicly claim to represent. If you’re looking for that then I suggest that you look at some traditional African states and monarchs like King Tenkamenin or Pharaoh Akhenaten or the concept of Ma’at. Otherwise, well……

Historically, the aim of Europe and Euro-America has been one thing and one thing only since the time of the Roman Empire – expansionism. All they have EVER been interested in was to seize and control as much land as possible in order to enrich themselves thereby becoming more and more powerful. Thus, the only places they have been interested in are those places that are rich in such minerals as oil, cobalt, uranium, manganese, diamonds, gold, etc. Anytime, and I mean anytime you try to rationalise political, economic or military decisions made by them, always read them in that context. There is also a strong fear factor, a fear that comes with the realisation that whites account for only a very tiny minority of the world’s population and in numbers that are getting less and less every decade (I strongly advise you to study the theories of such scholars as Dr Frances Cress Welsing and Prof Cheikh Anta Diop).

So forget all this hype about being champions of democracy and human rights; that’s for the gullible. Even in the US it has only ever applied to those who stayed WITHIN the parameters of the dictates of Eurocentrism (and as you know, if your skin is of a certain hue, even then it is not a given).

True, then they talk about world peace.....It will never happen.
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