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    To A White Girl

    I love you
    Because you're white,
    Not because you're charming
    Or bright.
    Your whiteness
    Is a silky thread
    Snaking through my thoughts
    In redhot patterns
    Of lust and desire.

    I hate you
    Because you're white.
    Your white meat
    Is nightmare food.
    White is
    The skin of Evil.
    You're my Moby D*ck,
    White Witch,
    Symbol of the rope and hanging tree,
    Of the burning cross.
    Loving you thus
    And hating you so,
    My heart is torn in two.
    Crucified.


    Written by Eldridge Cleaver circa 1965, his summation of the relationship between at least himself and at most, black men and white women.

    Do the women here think this is a reality today? Some may say no, but on an unconscious level, how much does the white Eurocentric beauty standard affect men of color, particularly Black men?

    For those of you voracious readers who've had the chance to read Black Panther member Eldridge Cleaver's classic book Soul on Ice; he talked openly about his lust for white women and dedicated chapters of the book trying to explain the history of why some Black men have this duality of lust and hate for the woman of their oppressor. I read the book years ago, and it was some of the frankest language I've ever read.

    Cleaver died in 1998 at the age of 62 and I wonder if he ever found peace within himself regarding this issue.

    Do you agree that Black men really do hate themselves and gravitate to women that look the least like them. Maybe this explains Black men even finding ugly white women to date and marry over an attractive Black woman.

    In his book, Why Black Men Love White Women, author Rajen Persaud asked, is it Love, Sex, Revenge, Power or Politics? Why do so many high profile Black men date and marry the most ordinary white women? Why do so many other Black men desire and covet the company of white women? And why does this subject deeply touch so many people of both races? Link: Why Black Men Love White Women I read the book this past spring and it was very well thought out. There is a dynamic to why some Black men lust for white women and from what I gathered from reading the book; it is not coming from a healthy place.

    What's the verdict?

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    yeh Jamaican women sweet

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    I say black women shud start goin after white men....to even things out ah lil bit....
    Living like Peggy, plotting like Joan

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    Cool I see it this way...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spranga View Post
    I say black women shud start goin after white men....to even things out ah lil bit....
    That's already happening...and I'm seeing a lot more of it than you'd want to see...however, whenever I see Black women with white men; for some reason, I feel that they are settling.

    Black women look better when they are with Black men. The paradox here is that we do desire our men--some of them desire an image that suggests that a woman that doesn't look like them is more appealing than women from their own culture.

    This is not coming from a healthy place and is probably why so many Black women get angry. It's a thought that is planted in the minds of some Black males that control them. Their choices are manipulated images designed to program him against his women and children in order to be less of a threat to white males.

    Do you agree with this?

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    Uuuummm is not so much wether I agree or I don't...I jus don't really care....
    Quote Originally Posted by MJ7 View Post
    That's already happening...and I'm seeing a lot more of it than you'd want to see...however, whenever I see Black women with white men; for some reason, I feel that they are settling.

    Black women look better when they are with Black men. The paradox here is that we do desire our men--some of them desire an image that suggests that a woman that doesn't look like them is more appealing than women from their own culture.

    This is not coming from a healthy place and is probably why so many Black women get angry. It's a thought that is planted in the minds of some Black males that control them. Their choices are manipulated images designed to program him against his women and children in order to be less of a threat to white males.

    Do you agree with this?
    Living like Peggy, plotting like Joan

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    move this ish to the poetry/dating/relationships section or summ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spranga View Post
    Uuuummm is not so much wether I agree or I don't...I jus don't really care....
    lol...Ditto!

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    Angry This won't be subtle...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spranga View Post
    Uuuummm is not so much wether I agree or I don't...I jus don't really care....
    Ambivalent, huh?

    Maybe this will make you care: http://news.puggal.com/wp-content/up...eral-photo.jpg

    This is the body of Emmet Till. He was killed in 1955 while visiting his grandfather in Mississippi. Why? He whistled at a white woman. His death was the first media event of the Civil Rights Movement and that photo was first published by Jet Magazine. It was wired around the world and exposed the hatred and evil of not only racism in America, but brought home the reality of how dangerous it was for Black people living in the south as well as the realization that having Black skin made you a target in this country.

    Two white men were tried and found "NOT GUILTY" by an all white jury. They got off for killing that young man, but not in life. Both died from cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ7 View Post
    Ambivalent, huh?

    Maybe this will make you care: http://news.puggal.com/wp-content/up...eral-photo.jpg

    This is the body of Emmet Till. He was killed in 1955 while visiting his grandfather in Mississippi. Why? He whistled at a white woman. His death was the first media event of the Civil Rights Movement and that photo was first published by Jet Magazine. It was wired around the world and exposed the hatred and evil of not only racism in America, but brought home the reality of how dangerous it was for Black people living in the south as well as the realization that having Black skin made you a target in this country.

    Two white men were tried and found "NOT GUILTY" by an all white jury. They got off for killing that young man, but not in life. Both died from cancer.
    I'm not laughing at Emmett Till eh, just you.

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    Wow...that's horrible...well at least we can see how far the black man has come and how we have moved forward as a society...black men can now whistle at, chase, date, marry or even casually screw a white woman without fear of prosecution!...well except probably from the angry black women who don't approve...lol..MJ7 I jus playin wit u eh...before u accuse me of bein de stereotypical trini dat tryna ruin yah thread...I gone I gone...
    Quote Originally Posted by MJ7 View Post
    Ambivalent, huh?

    Maybe this will make you care: http://news.puggal.com/wp-content/up...eral-photo.jpg

    This is the body of Emmet Till. He was killed in 1955 while visiting his grandfather in Mississippi. Why? He whistled at a white woman. His death was the first media event of the Civil Rights Movement and that photo was first published by Jet Magazine. It was wired around the world and exposed the hatred and evil of not only racism in America, but brought home the reality of how dangerous it was for Black people living in the south as well as the realization that having Black skin made you a target in this country.

    Two white men were tried and found "NOT GUILTY" by an all white jury. They got off for killing that young man, but not in life. Both died from cancer.
    Living like Peggy, plotting like Joan

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    ....u need to stop..lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Toppa_Toppa View Post
    I'm not laughing at Emmett Till eh, just you.
    Living like Peggy, plotting like Joan

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    Cool You know what....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Spranga View Post
    ....u need to stop..lol
    Thought of the day: I CAN'T STAND TRINIS!

    Am I serious? Or am I acting?


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    Angry This won't be subtle!

    Quote Originally Posted by MJ7 View Post
    Thought of the day: I CAN'T STAND TRINIS!

    Am I serious? Or am I acting?

    (((We don't care!)))




    Seriously chick, when are you ging to stop this crusade? Really? Take it to another board where your mantra might be more accepted, nah?

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    SMH and exits stage right..just at the fact that you said that white men with black women don't look right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ7 View Post
    Thought of the day: I CAN'T STAND TRINIS!

    Am I serious? Or am I acting?

    Yuh better be acting because i defended yo arse during the big argument about interracial dating...and you cya get more trini than me.

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