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your royal blue gives me a headache

Vincypowa, i think this year is cut throat for the Labor day Parade here in NY. The MAIN ingredient of the whole entire thing and most important is no longer, and that is having NO ARTIST perform on the floats, matter of fact, NO ONE on the floats except the DJ. What kind of ssshhh is that? That one right there just burned the bridges for NYC carnival.

So I guess you disagree with the Hawks position on Boycotting the parade ?

Isn't that you calm is working what the Hawks have a problem with ?

The guidlines did not say artists are not allowed. It said that artists are not allowed on the roof basically. They don't want any one standing on the roof above the 13' 6" restriction.

The guidlines did not say artists are not allowed. It said that artists are not allowed on the roof basically. They don't want any one standing on the roof above the 13' 6" restriction.

You know Diva it is not so much for knowing the insides of what they do or what they are trying to do because what ever happens on the inside will come out in the light as the reflection of their work. When it comes to organizing this event, it’s terrible. Lack of business sense, Lack of organization and lack of respect. You cannot have over 3 million people attending one of the countries biggest parades, let me remind you, the COUNTRY not the city, have people controlling and telling you what to do. It is not to say that they can’t tell you what to do but as an organization, certain agreements to what WE AS CARIBBEAN PEOPLE want should be respected and taken seriously. The saying goes, power is ruled by those with many numbers and as far as I see it, we have the numbers but a terrible leader. For this event that has been going on for so many years helping this city generate so much money in one day I think they owe us RESPECT.

For the police, I have no issue with “SOME” of them, but when they start to act violent and mistreat people for no reason, now that is a problem. Suppose a person who may have a hearing problem that cannot hear so clearly but is just enjoying the scenes, would it be fair for that person to receive a night stick to the back to move forward if that hearing impaired person did not hear or see an officer behind them? Do the police treat the Italians, Iris people when it comes to their parade in this kind of fashion? You are talking about Kiddy Carnival but there are bigger fish to fry for what your “EYE do not see behind the lines.

And it is not that people do not want to take on the headache, shit I will do it, and who knows, there maybe other people who can do a way better job than those at the WIADCA but if you have a monopoly that does not want to listen to reasoning and give up some control then you know what, let them crash n burn.

if the police uphold the rule to not have patrons go into the streets and jump up with a band, it could cause way more trouble. i even see possible riots. but thats only if they keep to that.
no advertising, no free t-shrits, cd's ect giveawys to the crowd, no artist on the trucks,,,,,those rules are petty and not needed.
in the past few years, it seems that violence on the actual parkway has decreased. but some type of altercation is expected when you have 3 million people gathered in one section. i don't think it's going to be that bad this year. i will miss Hawks and all their sexy ladies in costumes.

in plus on top of that.there are not alloweed throw t-shirts off the truck .this year or they will be fined.


that sounds little crazy to me.

I think you should reread the article. While I am not the biggest fan of WIADCA at the moment, the article does not state that.

It says No advertising truck without a costume band.

No shirts can be thrown from the truck. If you want to give away free shirts you can throw them into the crowd but you cannot be on the truck when you are doing it.

No artists on top of the cab or float. They really need legal to look over these things before the send them out because they are very vague. I take it to mean that they don't want anyone on the roof of the float or on the cab (Where the driver is ).

thats what i thought it read also. because that really wouldn't be right.

Have you seen or experience any such treatment? That's a real question, I'm not being sarcastic -I'm asking because I've seen and experienced only respect and kindness from NYPD both for Kiddies Carnival on Saturday and playing mas on Monday. I think the heavy police presence makes ppl uncomfortable because of the reputation of NYPD but as far as I know, they have not been flexing and treating ppl like animals -they're doing a job and the heavy presence is the result of the actions in the past of ppl who attended these festivities. Again, the freedom we had in the past coulcn't go on, this a huge parade held in a major urban area so of course it will be heavily regulated -on top of that, its not your average parade because for most of us its carnival and the traditions and behaviors associated with it are not the restrained, formal ones that are thought of as a "parade" in the USA -so what you have is ppl wanting the freedom of carnival yet 1/2 of them out there not even understanding what carnival is and using it as an excuse for shady, dangerous, illegal or violent behavior.

There is nothing crazy about that. You have a set of ppl following a truck, ppl who couldn't be bothered to pay a few dollars to play in a band (read all the unruly ppl who's reason for being out there has nothing to do with culture) and you start throwing CDs/tshirts/what have you, into this unruly crowd that's already meshed into a space too small to hold them...that scenario is dangerous and stupid.