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    Pessimists... Chronic Complainers.... others..

    ....are what is keeping back some progress in society... and I wish they would remodel their minds...

    What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriniTrini View Post
    ....are what is keeping back some progress in society... and I wish they would remodel their minds...

    What do you think?
    Give me an example.
    This sounds like childlike debate.

    right now society is in a fast forward mode.
    And I don't see anything holding it back.

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    Add to that list... those who latch on to one way of thinking that they don't even want to hear another point of view.

    Thus the rut some are in...

    Thus the failed/failing relationships...

    Thus why we can change what ails us...etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriniTrini View Post
    ....are what is keeping back some progress in society... and I wish they would remodel their minds...

    What do you think?
    they are keeping themselves back. they just need to take responsibility for themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by swallow View Post
    Give me an example.
    This sounds like childlike debate.

    right now society is in a fast forward mode.
    And I don't see anything holding it back.

    Sounds like a childlike debate?

    Do you wish to have a discussion or assume?
    Let me know when you are ready to share your thoughts instead of coming at me this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CocoErotika View Post
    they are keeping themselves back. they just need to take responsibility for themselves
    Not only themselves... their loved ones... their communities... society....


    Responsibility also for trying something new... decide that if they have to dismiss an idea maybe they should provide an alternative or work on creating an alternative with others cause some of these people help to make people feel despondent and give up.
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    Negative thinking is far more valuable than people think, in my opinion.
    Even chronic complainers have their purpose because they tend to ensure bureaucracy.

    And bureaucracy is a good thing because it stresses consultation and agreement.

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    But if you thinking bout individuals and allowing pessimism to keep them back. Then I feel dat is just a cliche, people who doh want to go forward eh staying back because of pessimism, dey just lazy and unambitious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steupz View Post
    Negative thinking is far more valuable than people think, in my opinion.
    Even chronic complainers have their purpose because they tend to ensure bureaucracy.

    And bureaucracy is a good thing because it stresses consultation and agreement.

    Now I like this....

    It is one thing to say nope! not going to work!!

    But to state the no and say why it won't and provide an alternative is much more appealing to me. I welcome an alternative thought. We can't expect all to agree

    But infantile... a$$hole behavior nah mek it... are we here to compromise, find solutions to benefit all or live with what is hurting us ....since we can't come to an amicable solution or find an alternative we can agree on

    or go with one side since you can't please everyone. Someone must get disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steupz View Post
    But if you thinking bout individuals and allowing pessimism to keep them back. Then I feel dat is just a cliche, people who doh want to go forward eh staying back because of pessimism, dey just lazy and unambitious

    This I am thinking especially the bolded:

    –noun
    1. the tendency to see, anticipate, or emphasize only bad or undesirable outcomes, results, conditions, problems, etc.: His pessimism about the future of our country depresses me.

    2. the doctrine that the existing world is the worst of all possible worlds, or that all things naturally tend to evil.

    3. the belief that the evil and pain in the world are not compensated for by goodness and happiness.


    Lazy and ambitious is there too...

    My mind can tell you the negative and positive in something.
    How many of us dwell on the negative in something only?
    How many of us dwell on the positive in something only?

    Some can't go forward because their experience is all they know... they never see outside their lil community in New York... most of the people they are around might be individualistic, pessimists, some might be crooks etc... but since they think most of the world like this they might thing that the majority of the world so except for a lil goodness here and there. I don't know if you catching what I am saying. What if they just travelled to elsewhere where people are different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swallow View Post
    Give me an example.

    right now society is in a fast forward mode.
    And I don't see anything holding it back.
    Two examples:

    Scenario 1:

    Man: I want to open a center to help kids read better and develop a love of reading.

    His Friend: Nah man that won't work where you are living those people don't like to read... you don't see that they only like to play basketball, play games, hang out by the corner? You will be wasting your time.

    Scenario 2:

    Woman: I want to open a business. I am thinking of going to the bank on Monday to get a loan. Could you give me a ride to the city on Monday?

    Sister: You going to the bank? Those people don't care about us.... They won't lend you a dime....
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    ohhh no wonderI had hard time understanding. you are not talking about complainers you are talking about discouragers. that's two different animals.

    however if you're determined and focused no discourager can stop you. if they do, then you were looking for an excuse or an easy out and then someone else to blame it on

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    Quote Originally Posted by CocoErotika View Post
    ohhh no wonderI had hard time understanding. you are not talking about complainers you are talking about discouragers. that's two different animals.

    however if you're determined and focused no discourager can stop you. if they do, then you were looking for an excuse or an easy out and then someone else to blame it on
    lol at this hour of the night I am lucky you understood... That is why I am pelting my tail to bed.... tired no tail

    All contribute to lack of progress.... Chronic Complainers, Negative people, Discouragers...

    Thanks for that word: discourager

    Yeah I agree that no discourager can stop you when you are focused. But what if your mind is weak despite having a good idea and give up due to lack of support. I had to learn over time to be strong in the face of adversity when people tell you that you will fail before you got a chance to try and also learn some things.

    Like steupz was saying: some dissent... some difference of opinion is good it can help chart a new path but some behavior and some dissent is not needed.


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