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    There are Afrodescent communities in Central American nations. While some have mixed a lot with other groups there are many that exist. In Costa Rica, in places like Puntarenas, Guanacaste, Matina valley those areas have Afrodescent communities descended from colonial times.

    In Nicaragua along the costa Rican border there some there and also within the interior.

    In El Salvador there are some there as well. They are scattered out in the general population at times too.

    Guatemala has communities descended from cimarrones in places like Amitlan and also in the interior lands some descended from slaves from colonial times reside there.

    They still exist. Just because paper genocide tries to hide them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Travel and also do extensive research and speak to people too and locals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObscureOpulence View Post
    There are Afrodescent communities in Central American nations. While some have mixed a lot with other groups there are many that exist. In Costa Rica, in places like Puntarenas, Guanacaste, Matina valley those areas have Afrodescent communities descended from colonial times.

    In Nicaragua along the costa Rican border there some there and also within the interior.

    In El Salvador there are some there as well. They are scattered out in the general population at times too.

    Guatemala has communities descended from cimarrones in places like Amitlan and also in the interior lands some descended from slaves from colonial times reside there.

    They still exist. Just because paper genocide tries to hide them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Travel and also do extensive research and speak to people too and locals.

    I spent a week in Puntarenas, Costa Rica and saw no Afro looking people. But I was made aware that towns on the other coast (the Caribbean) were full of them.

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    Keep in mind that Afrodescent and black do not necessarily mean the same thing.

    Many people in Puntarenas have Afrodescent. A lot of people are mixed but you can find people that show more visible African phenotypical traits and features.

    And, many locals and outsiders alike, always want to point to the Caribbean coast, but they can't all be in one place. People of Afrodescent are present and influential in multiple areas.

    Puntarenas, Guanacaste, Matina Valley, and many other places in Costa Rica have populations that are descended from the colonial era black slaves brought to Costa Rica way back in the day, long before Jamaicans or any West Indians (of any race or mix of races) arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robblaten View Post
    I spent a week in Puntarenas, Costa Rica and saw no Afro looking people. But I was made aware that towns on the other coast (the Caribbean) were full of them.
    Keep in mind that Afrodescent and black do not necessarily mean the same thing.

    Many people in Puntarenas have Afrodescent. A lot of people are mixed but you can find people that show more visible African phenotypical traits and features.

    And, many locals and outsiders alike, always want to point to the Caribbean coast, but they can't all be in one place. People of Afrodescent are present and influential in multiple areas.

    Puntarenas, Guanacaste, Matina Valley, and many other places in Costa Rica have populations that are descended from the colonial era black slaves brought to Costa Rica way back in the day, long before Jamaicans or any West Indians (of any race or mix of races) arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sankofaa View Post
    all over, who fills up chorillo, san francisco, curundu etc?? todos lo congos.

    The majority of colon city is of west indian decent btw (in resp to the other thread). The natives are out by portabello
    Colon City has fluctuated in diversity and has continued to become more diverse and at the same time more mixed ethnically, racially, culturally.

    As for places like El Chorillo, San Francisco, Curundu etc, not all of the native colonial blacks in these urban cities are of the Congo colonial black cultural group or have origins from such.

    Remember that over the past few decades more and more interioranos have been migrating from the rural interior to the urban cities and to the capital, and many of them actually are often of African descent or mixed Afrodescent. So some of the urban Afrodescendants you are seeing could very well be of interior origins from places in the Azuero Peninsula.

    Congos live principally in Costa Arriba (east of Colon City and east of the canal), and Costa Abajo (west of Colon City and west of the Canal). Unique seperate distinct interrelated Congo cultural traditions and aspects did once exist or were vibrant and widespread in places like Chepo, La Chorrera, and Chilibre although the Congo cultures in these places have faded away, but many steps are being taken to revive the Congo cultural and traditional vestiges that once dominated in these areas, and many younger generations are maintaining it. In addition, the building of the Panama Canal displaced many Congo cultural communities and many of their lands were excavated and used for the digging and adding islands and water ways for the pathway of the canal and there were pacts made between the Congo practioner kingdoms and kin with the Canal commission and the USA government but it was hard to restore and sometimes this pact and treaty with the Congo Afro colonial communities would be violated.

    Anyways, keep in mind that many colonial blacks in urban cities come from colonial blacks that have nothing to do with congos. For example many colonial blacks from East(ern) Panama province (Panama Esté) have migrated back and forth to the urban cities. Some coclesanos of Afrodescent have migrated to the capital, and traditionally many of them act and talk cholo as ################ being that cholo is known for and characterized for it's cholo culture and character.

    So there are colonial blacks and Afrodescendientes of afrocolonial stock from all over Panama that have migrated to Panama City and urban cities.

    A tenth province was recently promulgated into the Republic of Panama in late December 2013, known as Panama West (Panama Oesté) for what was traditionally known as western panama province. So that will expand further in depth knowledge, diversity, and character to Panama with the creation of this brand new province and it's culture, ethnography etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObscureOpulence View Post
    There are Afrodescent communities in Central American nations. While some have mixed a lot with other groups there are many that exist. In Costa Rica, in places like Puntarenas, Guanacaste, Matina valley those areas have Afrodescent communities descended from colonial times.

    In Nicaragua along the costa Rican border there some there and also within the interior.

    In El Salvador there are some there as well. They are scattered out in the general population at times too.

    Guatemala has communities descended from cimarrones in places like Amitlan and also in the interior lands some descended from slaves from colonial times reside there.

    They still exist. Just because paper genocide tries to hide them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Travel and also do extensive research and speak to people too and locals.
    Like I said, the blackest countries in Central America are Belize and Panama... HANDS DOWN. Followed by Honduras and Nicaragua.

    You trying to highlight the 5-10% African ancestry in Nicaraguan, Salvadorean, Costa Rican and Guatemalan Mestizos/Castizos/Indo-Mestizos is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.K.K.S. View Post
    Like I said, the blackest countries in Central America are Belize and Panama... HANDS DOWN. Followed by Honduras and Nicaragua.

    You trying to highlight the 5-10% African ancestry in Nicaraguan, Salvadorean, Costa Rican and Guatemalan Mestizos/Castizos/Indo-Mestizos is hilarious.
    exactly this guy is talinking foolishness

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    Que Xopa everyone, my fathers side of the family is from Panama, one thing most people do not know is that there are two groups of blacks in Panama, we have the colonial blacks who are descendants from African slaves brought to the americas during slavery days, and then the second group of blacks are the Antillian blacks, those brought in from the West Indies to help build the Panama canal, most of these blacks settled in the province of Colon on the Caribbean coast, most of those West Indians came mainly from Jamaica & Barbados, however a smaller number came from Trinidad, Haiti, and a few other islands.So the culture of Colon is very unique, its a mixture of West Indian and Latin vibes, so Reggae, Soca, Kompa is very popular in Panama, the food is a blend of all the different cultures, its an awesome country with an awesome culture and rich heritage.

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