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    "Out of many one people" or "Out of Africa one people"

    I've got a question fi mi Jamaicans bredren an sistren.

    Today i was discussing wi some friends, who like me, are crazy bout Ja culture. Then one of dem ask mi what is the Moto of Jamaica, mi tell him seh " Out of many one people".

    then he said : " Why "out of many" ? almost all a dem come from Africa" , then i didnt know what to answer. An i said "almost all a dem", but "not all a dem". An he replied " then any other country can bear the same moto"

    If you were me, what would you have told him ? Wha yuh think bout the Moto of Jamaica ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Town
    I've got a question fi mi Jamaicans bredren an sistren.

    Today i was discussing wi some friends, who like me, are crazy bout Ja culture. Then one of dem ask mi what is the Moto of Jamaica, mi tell him seh " Out of many one people".

    then he said : " Why "out of many" ? almost all a dem come from Africa" , then i didnt know what to answer. An i said "almost all a dem", but "not all a dem". An he replied " then any other country can bear the same moto"

    If you were me, what would you have told him ? Wha yuh think bout the Moto of Jamaica ?
    Do you know where the term "OUT OF MANY, ONE" came from??

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    Quote Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA
    Do you know where the term "OUT OF MANY, ONE" came from??
    don't even bother dude
    go find your car and don't waste time pun this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA
    Do you know where the term "OUT OF MANY, ONE" came from??
    Broda If you were me, what would you have told him ? tell mi caw mi nuh know. We learn everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Town
    I've got a question fi mi Jamaicans bredren an sistren.

    Today i was discussing wi some friends, who like me, are crazy bout Ja culture. Then one of dem ask mi what is the Moto of Jamaica, mi tell him seh " Out of many one people".

    then he said : " Why "out of many" ? almost all a dem come from Africa" , then i didnt know what to answer. An i said "almost all a dem", but "not all a dem". An he replied " then any other country can bear the same moto"

    If you were me, what would you have told him ? Wha yuh think bout the Moto of Jamaica ?

    Which part a Jamaica yuh come from?
    my guess is Mocho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Town
    Broda If you were me, what would you have told him ? tell mi caw mi nuh know. We learn everyday.

    first of all jamaicans have roots all over the world.

    but i have a bone to pick about "out of africa."

    africa is not a village
    not a city
    not a state
    not a country

    it is one of the most linguistically, culturally, spiritually diverse places in the world

    even if every single person in jamaica could trace their roots to africa, the motto "out of many" would still apply. if jamaican nationals were able to raise their ancestry back to the continent of africa, they would find that one of the biggest obstacles that was overcome during slavery and colonialism was arriving at a unified sense of nationhood because of the fact that even the enslaved people were brought to the land with different languages, cultures, histories, religions, etc.

    a yoruba and an akan have no more in common than an italian and a german. it's time black folks learn more about africa.

    if we understood how rich and diverse african civilization is, we would come a long way in our own achievements. rather than buying in to the believe that we are all exactly the same and therefore there is one acceptible way that black people should live or behave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-daughta
    first of all jamaicans have roots all over the world.

    but i have a bone to pick about "out of africa."

    africa is not a village
    not a city
    not a state
    not a country

    it is one of the most linguistically, culturally, spiritually diverse places in the world

    even if every single person in jamaica could trace their roots to africa, the motto "out of many" would still apply. if jamaican nationals were able to raise their ancestry back to the continent of africa, they would find that one of the biggest obstacles that was overcome during slavery and colonialism was arriving at a unified sense of nationhood because of the fact that even the enslaved people were brought to the land with different languages, cultures, histories, religions, etc.

    a yoruba and an akan have no more in common than an italian and a german. it's time black folks learn more about africa.

    if we understood how rich and diverse african civilization is, we would come a long way in our own achievements. rather than buying in to the believe that we are all exactly the same and therefore there is one acceptible way that black people should live or behave.

    And that is the GOSPEL right there....and not all AFRICANS have BROAD NOSES....and not all AFRICANS LOOK the SAME...and not all AFRICANS are of the same COMPLEXION.....and not all AFRICANS are.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-daughta
    first of all jamaicans have roots all over the world.

    but i have a bone to pick about "out of africa."
    you'd have a valid point if that was what the motto was alluding to....but it is not....

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    notice the lack of Africans on the Coat of Arms - it has NOTHING to do with Africa - its is purely Jamaican..

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    Marshall Town its motto ok.
    “A sharp knife never proclaims it’s sharpness to the world…but the first to fall against it becomes it’s advocate.”

    You can put any face behind a mask but be careful cos someone else might be pretending. You might not be the only one with a secret -- Cassie/Gretel

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    Quote Originally Posted by elq
    you'd have a valid point if that was what the motto was alluding to....but it is not....

    i know that's not what the motto is about.

    i have bone to pick with the thought that being out of africa means that jamaica is any less diverse.


    the motto is about africa, europe, asia, the americas..etc colliding on one island.

    i think you'll get me if you read what i said a second time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-daughta
    i know that's not what the motto is about.
    i have bone to pick with the thought that being out of africa means that jamaica is any less diverse.

    i think you'll get me if you read what i said a second time.
    i don't need to reread what u said.
    i already told you that you have a valid point.
    but it is only valid if that was what the motto was about.
    what you are talking about is a different topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon S
    Which part a Jamaica yuh come from?
    my guess is Mocho

    i doh think he from JA...he jus said he was talkin to ppl who are "crazy about JA culture"

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-daughta
    a yoruba and an akan have no more in common than an italian and a german.
    interesting statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon S



    notice the lack of Africans on the Coat of Arms - it has NOTHING to do with Africa - its is purely Jamaican..
    the US says the same thing on money

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