If actions have consequences why are you making seem inconsequential that this man stepped out on his wife repeatedly.

On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the worst act of betrayal, where does cheating on your spouse fall for you?

pause for a cause though... if he stepped out on his wife repeatedly and she chose to stay there repeatedly, then it's now her supporting that action, no? if he cheat once and you stay then i can understand forgiving but many times? come on now....

it'll probably rank as an 8... the circumstances could jack it to a full 10... i mean, most folks dont think about the circumstances of betrayal.. they just shoot first, make excuses after... when you doing your shit, you not thinkin about your family or your wife or your kids.. why think about them after? go with the flow, whether that flow leads to divorce court, family court or court ordered child support and alimony... go with the flow .. as i say.. start as you mean to go on...

And you, young George are the child who learns Integrated Science and comes away from it feeling like he can now debate someone doing astrophysics.

All I've seen you do in that post is engage in a set of emotive responses none of which addresses the core issue.

So let me break it down for you: the principal thing Dr King is guilty of in the issue of his extramarital liaisons is that he failed to live up to the expectations and sexual codes of Euro-American society which was internalised by the African-American community more passionately than the Euros themselves. I do not dismiss the argument that he was essentially lying to his wife, his congregation and indeed himself. I do argue, however, that the greater fault is not Dr King or any man or woman who has a third-party relationship but that same moral code that is and has always been unrealistic; an image of perfection that cannot be reached or maintained by most people because it is not something that is natural among humans.

I am yet to see you put up one fact to show otherwise. I do not doubt that many people can and are living very happy, healthy monogamous lives but to tell me that this is the only legitimate sexual moral code is and has always been a lie and is utter egregious rubbish.

It doesn't take a university student to do some simple back-tracking to follow the origins of this moral ideal back to its beginnings to see that it had not one fuck to do with any god or respect for family or women. I've outlined it step-by-step already on Imix and in greater detail on Trinicenter.com so there's no need to repeat myself.

pause for a cause though... if he stepped out on his wife repeatedly and she chose to stay there repeatedly, then it's now her supporting that action, no? if he cheat once and you stay then i can understand forgiving but many times? come on now....

it'll probably rank as an 8... the circumstances could jack it to a full 10... i mean, most folks dont think about the circumstances of betrayal.. they just shoot first, make excuses after... when you doing your shit, you not thinkin about your family or your wife or your kids.. why think about them after? go with the flow, whether that flow leads to divorce court, family court or court ordered child support and alimony... go with the flow .. as i say.. start as you mean to go on...

Ok...so this man is king of kings for me & people of color. He helped sooo much with the progress for folks who look like me in America...just the fact that i can ride a non-segregated bus...or eat at a restaurant where a white man serves me is testament to his immortality.

But every man is not without his faults. The most powerful american fish in history...J. Edgar Hoover (Fishes Bureau of Investigation)...was said to have numerous illegal secret hotel recordings of MLK having sex with women who weren't his wife. Allegedly they have recordings of him with white prostitutes....and him supposedly beating one of them...the prostitute stuff is probably sensationalism.

I don't doubt that the white establishment tried to ruin him in an effort to curtail his fight for colored progress....and that they would've done anything to stop him...including killing him.

But his best friend Ralph Abernathy also details accounts of repeated adultery in his biopic "And The Walls Came Tumbling Down". I do not know if any of this is true.

MLK is probably the most important historical being to me because of the direct impacts his actions have had on my life.

But if any of this stuff is true...i cant help think just a little bit less of the man behind the legend.

But for you imix....does his infidelity tarnish his legacy?

for all your reading about MLK HB, this is new to you? His rumours alleged infidelity has always been there. Even when he was alive. I am more surprised (kinda pleasantly so) that no one in his inner circle has come out earlier and explicitly stated it. But I think that they have waited this long to say anything shows the respect they had for him, and the desire not to say anything that would take away from his achievements. Its seems now, that since a lot of time has passed since he died, ppl are more willing to speak of his faults.

This is where to concept of "role model" gets dicey. You can admire someone's achievements in life, but that isnt always the same as admiring the man/human being that they are.

As a preacher he should be held to a higher standard because that is part of what you assume when you become one, but even pastors/preachers are mere mortals prone to fault and sin so.....

So by virtue of the fact that people are whorish in general, we should give up Christianity? Should we also give up Christianity because people are badminded in general? Or because people are selfish in general? Or because people are liars in general? Or because people are violent in general?

Should we simply stop striving for better simply because others fail? Or should we strive to better ourselves in spite of our own failures and the failures of others?


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Sometimes I legitimately wonder if you have cerebral palsy. Wha di ass does marital fidelity have to do with whether or not someone should continue to strive for a Christian lifestyle?

Nuh uh. If this were the case every cheating man or woman has an excuse. You asked what prominent, non monogamous men I'd heard of through history? The answer is none because I don't know that they were non monogamous. Obviously they weren't cheating; hence, no scandal...no one in their business, nothing to talk about. You're painting him as a poor soul trying aimlessly to live up to society's ideal of a good man...he didn't try to live up to society at the time's ideal of a good n**ga..he challenged it and changed it. Obviously he had enough intellect to realize if traditional marriage was or was not right for him...and if not, what kind of alternative might work that would NEITHER HURT NOR FORCE HIM TO DECEIVE THOSE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HOLD DEAREST.

You like many others on this site can't detect when some one is joking cause yall are too damn uptight.What I meant is that if people want to be legit and moral Christians is that it would be very difficult in this day and age,many Christians don't know what it means to be a Christian .Denominations constantly changing their theology (take the instance the debuting of many new versions of the Bible ) .Many have double standards. Many Christians think they can be moral when they join websites like adultfriendfinder and are flirting on twitter and FB lowkey.



Are you sure he changed his idea of what a traditional marriage should be, he spoke out on many things but not on what entitles a traditional marriage.

You like many others on this site can't detect when some one is joking cause yall are too damn uptight.What I meant is that if people want to be legit and moral Christians is that it would be very difficult in this day and age,many Christians don't know what it means to be a Christian .Denominations constantly changing their theology (take the instance the debuting of many new versions of the Bible ) .Many have double standards. Many Christians think they can be moral when they join websites like adultfriendfinder and are flirting on twitter and FB lowkey.

And you, young George are the child who learns Integrated Science and comes away from it feeling like he can now debate someone doing astrophysics.

All I've seen you do in that post is engage in a set of emotive responses none of which addresses the core issue.

So let me break it down for you: the principal thing Dr King is guilty of in the issue of his extramarital liaisons is that he failed to live up to the expectations and sexual codes of Euro-American society which was internalised by the African-American community more passionately than the Euros themselves. I do not dismiss the argument that he was essentially lying to his wife, his congregation and indeed himself. I do argue, however, that the greater fault is not Dr King or any man or woman who has a third-party relationship but that same moral code that is and has always been unrealistic; an image of perfection that cannot be reached or maintained by most people because it is not something that is natural among humans.

I am yet to see you put up one fact to show otherwise. I do not doubt that many people can and are living very happy, healthy monogamous lives but to tell me that this is the only legitimate sexual moral code is and has always been a lie and is utter egregious rubbish.

It doesn't take a university student to do some simple back-tracking to follow the origins of this moral ideal back to its beginnings to see that it had not one fuck to do with any god or respect for family or women. I've outlined it step-by-step already on Imix and in greater detail on Trinicenter.com so there's no need to repeat myself.

Nuh uh. If this were the case every cheating man or woman has an excuse. You asked what prominent, non monogamous men I'd heard of through history? The answer is none because I don't know that they were non monogamous. Obviously they weren't cheating; hence, no scandal...no one in their business, nothing to talk about. You're painting him as a poor soul trying aimlessly to live up to society's ideal of a good man...he didn't try to live up to society at the time's ideal of a good n**ga..he challenged it and changed it. Obviously he had enough intellect to realize if traditional marriage was or was not right for him...and if not, what kind of alternative might work that would NEITHER HURT NOR FORCE HIM TO DECEIVE THOSE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HOLD DEAREST.