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    Explaining the difference between Soca and Dancehall to someone from outside.

    I am very selective of people who I allow to play was with me. Recently, I blessed a Cuban/Nicaraguan friend with the life experience of pumping with me for Miami Carnival. And the difference between Soca and Dancehall came up.


    I explained that although there is a lot of variation and mixture,

    Dancehall is more lyrically complex, and Soca is more musically complex. That is, there are more words in a Dancehall song usually, and in particular the refrain. There are more rhythms occurring in a Soca song, and it can be more melodic- more is going on with production.


    And then for fun I'd randomly ask her what kind of song we were listening to in my car the next day or hour. She never got it wrong.

    How do you explain the difference between Soca and Dancehall to someone who
    1) cannot tell the difference b/w the accents of the Caribbean?
    2) Does not necessarily understand what is being said?

    Have you ever had to explain that difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bktrini305 View Post
    I am very selective of people who I allow to play was with me. Recently, I blessed a Cuban/Nicaraguan friend with the life experience of pumping with me for Miami Carnival. And the difference between Soca and Dancehall came up.


    I explained that although there is a lot of variation and mixture,

    Dancehall is more lyrically complex, and Soca is more musically complex. That is, there are more words in a Dancehall song usually, and in particular the refrain. There are more rhythms occurring in a Soca song, and it can be more melodic- more is going on with production.


    And then for fun I'd randomly ask her what kind of song we were listening to in my car the next day or hour. She never got it wrong.

    How do you explain the difference between Soca and Dancehall to someone who
    1) cannot tell the difference b/w the accents of the Caribbean?
    2) Does not necessarily understand what is being said?

    Have you ever had to explain that difference?

    you'd be shocked to find out that to a lot of outsiders its no difference to them... I remember back in the days i used to go to the elite ark, my friend who is yankee came with me... soca was playing and he turned to me and was like "maaannn i'm tired of this reggae shit yo"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hello BKLYN View Post
    you'd be shocked to find out that to a lot of outsiders its no difference to them... I remember back in the days i used to go to the elite ark, my friend who is yankee came with me... soca was playing and he turned to me and was like "maaannn i'm tired of this reggae shit yo"
    1) i'd be tired of that friend lol
    2) nah it doesn't surprise me. caribbean people don't believe they have a culture, so they don't teach about their culture properly
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    I never met someone who cant tell the difference between soca and dancehall
    but give them a hearing aid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucianite View Post
    I never met someone who cant tell the difference between soca and dancehall
    but give them a hearing aid
    that's it though... kevin lyttle is reggae to them. it seems obvious to us but i'm sure you could ask a puerto rican and they may not know
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    Dam that is so hard to explain lmfao. You really have to be west indian to probably get a full understanding. I would say dancehall is club music and soca is more fete music.
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    You have to be very dumb to not see the difference between Reggae and soca. Reggae has a clear "dip" in the beat and the lyrics are based on different topics compared to soca.

    Soca is more upbeat even the "groovy" ones and the lyrics are about different topics compared to reggae.

    Dancehall and soca are also different I've never met a person to say "this sounds like that vybz kartel tune" they would say to me instead "never heard this before. Or possibly say it sounds like African music.. Some soca tunes sound like dancehall don't get me wrong but soca is its own genre.
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    very surface/high level, i feel as though reggae music has more "stops"/breaks in it while soca is a bit more continuous. i like your explanation though-- soca is more musically complex
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    Quote Originally Posted by str8finessin View Post
    Dam that is so hard to explain lmfao. You really have to be west indian to probably get a full understanding. I would say dancehall is club music and soca is more fete music.
    tanx. Rell helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucianite View Post
    I never met someone who cant tell the difference between soca and dancehall
    but give them a hearing aid
    You know what... It may be a thing particular in Miami. There's so many Latin derivatives of music and it's often difficult to tell where exactly a song is from/what the genre is.
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    As a american dude, I did the research for the difference. So I tell folx that Turn me on is soca and Pon di River is dancehall. Then you get an enlightenment look on their face afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayt2009 View Post
    As a american dude, I did the research for the difference. So I tell folx that Turn me on is soca and Pon di River is dancehall. Then you get an enlightenment look on their face afterwards.
    Those tunes are ancient now.

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    That's what most identify with. You put on any of them joints on still, folx still move. Especially Elephant man's shyt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayt2009 View Post
    That's what most identify with. You put on any of them joints on still, folx still move. Especially Elephant man's shyt.
    But get with the times jeez loads of new Dancehall and Soca tunes release all year round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayt2009 View Post
    As a american dude, I did the research for the difference. So I tell folx that Turn me on is soca and Pon di River is dancehall. Then you get an enlightenment look on their face afterwards.
    That explanation would dissatisfy almost any west indian person though. I expect that sort of explanation from Nicki Minaj, but not Rihanna, if you catch my drift. The sounds are so different now, the enlightened look on their face could easily be created if you told them Truck on the Road was dancehall and Hold Yuh is Soca.
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