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    Does anyone here ACTUALLY think....

    that if judgement day came today they would really go to "Heaven"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkhoney
    that if judgement day came today they would really go to "Heaven"
    Yes I honestly believe so...

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    only 144,000 people will reach heaven.......
    There's way more people than that here on this planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triniprincess76
    Yes I honestly believe so...
    well then i'm proud of you.... not many ppl can say that and truly mean it.

    socadiva - pls elaborate... i never heard such a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socadiva05
    only 144,000 people will reach heaven.......
    There's way more people than that here on this planet.
    I always thought that # wasn't literal...but to answer the question...today I don't think I'd go...but other days I think I would...I just don't understand God's grace enough basically...I hope i end up there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by socadiva05
    only 144,000 people will reach heaven.......
    There's way more people than that here on this planet.
    So if the latter is true, then does the first statement really ring true to you, or is it possible that the text is misinterpreted?

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    I am going by the grace of GOD.
    Even though I have stolen a couple of things as a youth and committed about 3 other sins! God forgives!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by triniprincess76
    So if the latter is true, then does the first statement really ring true to you, or is it possible that the text is misinterpreted?

    what text are you referring to...i never heard there was a limit to the # of people to go to heaven?

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    yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrini1
    what text are you referring to...i never heard there was a limit to the # of people to go to heaven?
    There isn't a limit, but people use the text in Revelation (14:1 & 3) about 144,000 as the Bible saying that only that # will be going to heaven.
    Last edited by triniprincess76; 09-27-2005 at 05:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karibspices
    yes.
    is that because you don't sin or is it because you know you will repent and be forgiven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socadiva05
    only 144,000 people will reach heaven.......
    There's way more people than that here on this planet.
    are you jehovahs witness....I know they preach that madness (madness being my opinion)

    If that's the case the rest of of might as well "get mad now"

    But to answer BKhoney, at this moment I don't think I'll be fit to enter heaven. I gotta work on that
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrini1
    what text are you referring to...i never heard there was a limit to the # of people to go to heaven?
    I don't know where it is in the bible, but I remember it from the "Left Behind Series" (religious thriller about the last days leading up to Judgement day, authored by Tim LaHaye).
    The series is based on religious teachings and scriptures.
    I think that the number is found in the book of Revelations 7

    Here's an excerpt from the following website
    http://www.wcg.org/lit/bible/Rev/144000.htm
    The 144,000 martyrs are described in the first vision John sees in book of Revelation, chapter 7. Later, he will see a vision of the great multitudes in white robes. Both groups appear to represent the full number and universal nature of the company of Godís people as Revelation presents them. Letís look at the details of Johnís visions of the 144,000.

    The 144,000 is the first group to be sealed and protected from what is coming (Rev. 7:3-8). Revelation 14 describes them as those who were "redeemed from the earth" (14:4). John says "they have not defiled themselves" (verse 4). The 144,000 follow the Lamb wherever he goes and "no lie was found in their mouths" (verse 5).

    The context suggests that the 144,000 symbolize those who are true to God and his way. This group is composed of spiritual virgins, who do not commit spiritual fornication by following false religious and philosophical teachings. Neither have they refused to repent of ungodly behavior. They are true to Godís perfect way. Those whom God has "sealed" will survive the outpouring of Godís wrath. They may suffer trials, persecution or even martyrdom, but they are saved for eternal life.

    The sealing of Godís servants has much in common with a vision the prophet Ezekiel experienced. He saw human figures in Jerusalem (which is probably a symbol for the righteous remnant among the tribes of Israel) disturbed over the sins being committed in the city (9:4). They also received a "mark" on the forehead, as a sign of their faithfulness to Godís way.

    What does it mean to be marked and sealed in the way Revelation 7 speaks of? To be "sealed" is a symbolic way of saying that the 144,000 are identified as belonging to God. They are "marked" as his special people. In ancient times, a seal commonly indicated possession, much in the way a rancherís brand identifies which cattle belong to him. Merchants in ancient times would also place seals on packages to certify ownership.

    To have the seal of God, then, is to belong to God Ė to be his spiritual child. Paul explains that God has "set his seal of ownership on us" (2 Corinthians 1:22). Christians can be sure of Godís divine care for, "The Lord knows those who are his" (2 Timothy 2:19). The saints are sealed by the Holy Spirit "for the day of redemption" (Ephesians 4:30).

    Ownership includes protection from condemnation, and the seal of God protects his people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val
    are you jehovahs witness....I know they preach that madness (madness being my opinion)

    If that's the case the rest of of might as well "get mad now"

    But to answer BKhoney, at this moment I don't think I'll be fit to enter heaven. I gotta work on that
    No, I'm not a Jehovah's Witness (actually a United Methodist).
    I'm just quoting what I read.....

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