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Old 02-08-2012, 08:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dissecting a role model

Is it possible for one to have a role model for a specific attribute of his character while disregarded the negative elements that make up his character?

Lets say you have an athlete who is at the tops of the league because of his game, but he has a really bad attitude off the court. He curses at fans, doesn't give interviews, autographs or interact with fans in a positive way. Have a couple of assault charges against him for bar fights , etc. However he has as incredible work effect which is responsible for him being where he is. Or he spends all his free time with less fortunate children from his neighborhood, giving back to the hood where he grew up.
Can he be a role model exclusively for his good deeds, in that, someone could look at him and say well I don’t care who he is, I don’t care for his ability to play basketball , don’t care for his work ethics, he is my role model exclusively because of how he gave back to the community. I want to grew and come back to the community like he does?

Or do we have to take the whole package regardless of what you appreciate him for?

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Old 02-08-2012, 08:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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yes, they are called parents.

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Old 02-08-2012, 09:00 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ladyrastafari View Post
yes, they are called parents.
DAMN LR could u please leave the question the way it is. We all know that parents are suppose to be you primary role model that is not what we are dealing with here.....

if you wnat i could phrase the question for u in a way that it deal with parents, jus for you

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Is it possible for one to have a role model for a specific attribute of his character while disregarded the negative elements that make up his character?
yes, it's possible. no one is perfect; however, i do believe that people should always strive to improve in areas in which they're lacking.
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Martin Luther King is a role model for me in how he lead people to try to be equal. I totally ignore how much of a terrible husband he was.

Buju Banton is a role model because of songs like Destiny, Not an Easy Road, Hills and Valleys, Murderer, Til I'm Laid to Rest, etc. I totally ignore the cocaine charge and his belief in Selassie as God.

I'll be a role model to my son, but he needs to ignore the million flaws I have or learn from them and try to do better.

Every role model has a million faults that you can ignore (except Jesus).
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Originally Posted by RotiKing2004eva View Post
Martin Luther King is a role model for me in how he lead people to try to be equal. I totally ignore how much of a terrible husband he was.

Buju Banton is a role model because of songs like Destiny, Not an Easy Road, Hills and Valleys, Murderer, Til I'm Laid to Rest, etc. I totally ignore the cocaine charge and his belief in Selassie as God.

[B]I'll be a role model to my son, but he needs to ignore the million flaws I have or learn from them and try to do better.

Every role model has a million faults that you can ignore (except Jesus).
isn't that necessary for all role models cause not make is perfect....

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Originally Posted by bhalistix View Post
Is it possible for one to have a role model for a specific attribute of his character while disregarded the negative elements that make up his character?

Lets say you have an athlete who is at the tops of the league because of his game, but he has a really bad attitude off the court. He curses at fans, doesn't give interviews, autographs or interact with fans in a positive way. Have a couple of assault charges against him for bar fights , etc. However he has as incredible work effect which is responsible for him being where he is. Or he spends all his free time with less fortunate children from his neighborhood, giving back to the hood where he grew up.
Can he be a role model exclusively for his good deeds, in that, someone could look at him and say well I don’t care who he is, I don’t care for his ability to play basketball , don’t care for his work ethics, he is my role model exclusively because of how he gave back to the community. I want to grew and come back to the community like he does?

Or do we have to take the whole package regardless of what you appreciate him for?
this is the question you asked... that's what i answered
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DAMN LR could u please leave the question the way it is. We all know that parents are suppose to be you primary role model that is not what we are dealing with here.....

if you wnat i could phrase the question for u in a way that it deal with parents, jus for you
I don't look to other people as role models so that's why i answered the way I did... i admire people's talents but i don't seek to be LIKE them... and the only people I can fully apply that question to, is parents.. so TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!

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Originally Posted by bhalistix View Post
isn't that necessary for all role models cause not make is perfect....

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Is it possible for one to have a role model for a specific attribute of his character while disregarded the negative elements that make up his character?
You asked the question, yet knew the answer?
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Originally Posted by RotiKing2004eva View Post
You asked the question, yet knew the answer?

how could i know the answer, how could i know how everyone feels with regards to a chosen role model. Maybe some people believe that you take ever there (his good and his bad), maybe the other person believes that the role model bad out weighs his good hence he can't be a role model....

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Originally Posted by ladyrastafari View Post
this is the question you asked... that's what i answered


I don't look to other people as role models so that's why i answered the way I did... i admire people's talents but i don't seek to be LIKE them... and the only people I can fully apply that question to, is parents.. so TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!

you put it in bold, increase the fonts, and changed the color to pink, only you highlight a question you NEVER answered. read ti again.....

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Rotiking you are a funny dude. You attack rappers lifestyles in here but yet Buju Banton is your role model because he made inspirational songs ? LOL..

So the same case can be made for someone who consider Tupac as their role model because he also made inspirational songs..BULLET !

Both men has have controversial lifestyles

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Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
Rotiking you are a funny dude. You attack rappers lifestyles in here but yet Buju Banton is your role model because he made inspirational songs ? LOL..

So the same case can be made for someone who consider Tupac as their role model because he also made inspirational songs..BULLET !

Both men has have controversial lifestyles
I don't like Tupac, but "Changes" he wrote that at 19 years old. I use that as inspiration.

I don't really remember the last time a rapper made a positive effect on my life. I believe Buju has a more positive effect on me than negative.
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Originally Posted by bhalistix View Post
how could i know the answer, how could i know how everyone feels with regards to a chosen role model. Maybe some people believe that you take ever there (his good and his bad), maybe the other person believes that the role model bad out weighs his good hence he can't be a role model....
some people are all or nothing. some people like to see an idealized version of the human being that they choose to model after. when the role model does something wrong, it taints their views of that ideal and thus they completely reject the person's ability to be a role model. realistically speaking, people will disappoint us and we can't depend on another person's entire life to model ours after.
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Originally Posted by RotiKing2004eva View Post
I don't like Tupac, but "Changes" he wrote that at 19 years old. I use that as inspiration.

I don't really remember the last time a rapper made a positive effect on my life. I believe Buju has a more positive effect on me than negative.
YOu don't like rappers, they have no positive influence in your life, which is all good, I just find it hilarious you like Buju (sure you like other reggae artists too)...I was making a point to you of who you consider a role model, when both type of men are controversial.. its fine to like whomever you like..

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