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    Deadbeat fathers...

    Having a discussion with somebody just now who was ranting and raving about a deadbeat dad..and how he wasnt doing this and that... we were joined by another girl who chimed in about deadbeat fathers as well.. the first one had the man's first child.. the second one was the man's second or third child mother... on asking.. the first man didn't do much for the child.. the second man does everything for his previous child(ren) but wont take responsibility for this last child and is a deadbeat to this child.. the second child mother wanted to have a child for the man cos she saw how good he treated the child before hers but when she had his child that he apparently didnt want. he became a deadbeat..

    so i'm asking.. are the mothers partly to blame for choosing a deadbeat as their child's father? or is the whole situation wholely and solely on the men.. like especially in cases where the man doesnt want to have a child and the woman has the child anyway...

    and with "deadbeatism"... is it worse when the man is making money and spends none on the child.. or when the father is just one of them wutless men who aint really trying to help out the mother?

    also which is worse.. claiming a child as yours and being a deadbeat.. or denying the child is yours and being a deadbeat..
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    so nobody have or know a deadbeat? lol...
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    yes mothers are partly to blame... youngins in particular does just want now 4 now and unintentionally end up preggers by a bum ass #################### fresh outta HS w/ no job... so now she's successfully segwayed her deadbeat bf/fb into a deadbeat dad and the troubles begin.

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    yea.. cos at what point does the man be a deadbeat.. only when he not doing things for the child.. or were there markers that indicated he doesnt take care of himself and his responsibilities..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyrastafari View Post
    so nobody have or know a deadbeat? lol...
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    This is an interesting question and it will have many takes.

    Mine are:

    As a man when you know you had sex with a woman and your sperm enters her vagina, (yes I put it so because he might think the sex is "protected" where it really wasnīt)...the woman can get pregnant. when she does, you have to step up to the plate, because if you wasnīt deh, yuh name wouldna call. So from that point of view, I think men are 100% responsible for deadbeatness when they are being deadbeat.

    Then there are the cases where the women are just being angry jennyasses, and really oppressing the men and using the child/ren as ammunition, effectively forcing the man to become a deadbeat...I mean, come on, he is only a man and thereīs only so much he can put up with....then I think itīs somewhat the womanīs fault that heīs a deadbeat dad...he "might" only take financial responsibility..and to me thatīs just not enough, so heīs labeled deadbeat.

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    but TC. do you think that sometimes women have to take responsibility for fckin with a deadbeat in the first place? especially if she knows he got other kids that he dont take care of.. or he says he dont want not trying to have any more kids or kids right now? in situations like that? is it all him? if you see a man hustling all over the place and can barely take care of himself.. would you put urself in a position to possibly breed for him?

    also.. men who claim and dont support. worse than men who dont claim at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyrastafari View Post
    but TC. do you think that sometimes women have to take responsibility for fckin with a deadbeat in the first place? especially if she knows he got other kids that he dont take care of.. or he says he dont want not trying to have any more kids or kids right now? in situations like that? is it all him? if you see a man hustling all over the place and can barely take care of himself.. would you put urself in a position to possibly breed for him?

    also.. men who claim and dont support. worse than men who dont claim at all?

    Yes, a woman should take responsibilty too. but a deadbeat to one womanīs kids may not necessarily be a deadbeat to another. Take for example my father...deadbeat no skünt...was visibly deadbeat...yet another woman rush in there and had children with him, and he took care of his kids with her up until today. He completely forsook us, and now does wanna be boasting bout us and our accomplishments and doctor title and all kinda ass fart! Steups!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyrastafari View Post

    also.. men who claim and dont support. worse than men who dont claim at all?
    To answer this bit...as a woman now looking back, I would have prefered to have a father who claimed and didnīt support (financially) if he genuinely didnīt have the money, but was at least there, representing the presence of a father in my life.

    Men who donīt claim at all may have a point, because he might know for sure the child isnīt his...but where he knows he was there(in the vagina) and just donīt claim without DNA test...he should be beaten and spat upon imo.

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    anyone ever considered that she can dash whe de pickney in belly if she find out from onset that he dead beat??
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    yea but thats not an option most exercise..
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    Deadbeat dads are fully responsible for failing their children on a daily basis. The woman is responsible for the bad decision to deal with the father. However, from there the man is responsible for his action or rather lack of action in the child's life. The man chooses daily to neglect his child and those continuous poor decisions have nothing to do with the mother, who also make the choice daily to be involved in the child's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyrastafari View Post
    yea but thats not an option most exercise..
    sounds the same as sayin you have a nuclear weapon. and you rather fire it than get the united nations involved..

    it takes two to make a child..

    those who have kids for obvious dead beats i have no remorse for..

    those who abandon their offsrping, but grow another brood for another woman and take care of that clutch is who i would take an issue with (certain circumstances permitting)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyrastafari View Post
    yea but thats not an option most exercise..
    why have a child for man your not married to or cannot support on your own?? this is a backward mentality that needs to stop with women. Then they call the men dead beats?? HA!! These are the women that will never learn and will spit out a few more kids for different men, yet blaming the men for their stupid choices.
    I bet you if they cut off child support and welfare, half these idiots will learn to use protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missmayling View Post
    why have a child for man your not married to or cannot support on your own?? this is a backward mentality that needs to stop with women. Then they call the men dead beats?? HA!! These are the women that will never learn and will spit out a few more kids for different men, yet blaming the men for their stupid choices.
    I bet you if they cut off child support and welfare, half these idiots will learn to use protection.
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