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    Chinese transsexual Barred from Miss Universe Pageant

    Agence France-Presse

    A Chinese transsexual has been barred from competing in the 2004 Miss Universe competition because she was born a man, organisers said Friday.

    Chen Lili, a 24-year-old fashion model from China`s southwestern Sichuan province, would have been the first transgender woman to vie for the title.

    "The sex of the candidates should be female at birth and cannot be artificially changed," Miss Universe selection committee chairman Zhang Ruiling told AFP.

    "The Miss Universe pageant does not reject transgenders but it would be unfair to the other candidates if we allowed a transexual woman to paticipate," said Zhang, speaking on behalf of the Miss Universe-China organisation.

    Chen, whose previous name was Yongjun or "Brave Soldier," had previously been granted permission to take part in a series of beauty contests to become China`s Miss Universe.

    Chen underwent transsexual surgery in November and made headlines in local papers last month when she won official approval to change her sex on identity papers.

    Transsexuals have ceased to be taboo in urban China in recent years, and a total of 500 Chinese men have so far had their sex changed surgically, according to previous reports in China`s state media.

    Although Chen will no longer compete for beauty queen accolades she will be allowed to perform during the staging of Miss Sichuan in April.

    "Because of her honesty and courage in telling us the truth we will give her another chance during the (Miss Sichuan) selection to perform in front of the audience," Zhang said.

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    Cimo u still entering de pageant

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    Originally posted by CrAziNeSs
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    another trans story...

    Associated Press

    SYDNEY, Australia -- Mianne Bagger brought a new twist to gender blending in golf.

    After a year in which seven women competed in men's tournaments, Bagger made history Thursday in the Women's Australian Open as the first transsexual to play in a pro golf tournament.

    Bagger had a sex-change operation in 1995.
    She struggled mightily, though, shooting a 12-over 84 to drop 16 strokes behind the early leaders.

    "I was pretty numb the first seven holes, I couldn't really feel much below my shoulders," Bagger said.

    "I didn't know where my swing was and it took a while to get rid of the nerves. The greens were fast and it didn't help hitting a few quite a few feet past."

    Bagger was born a male in Copenhagen, Denmark, in 1966 and began playing golf as an 8-year-old.

    Golf World magazine ran a photo of Bagger as a 14-year-old boy posing with Greg Norman at a golf clinic.

    Bagger got down to a 4-handicap but stopped playing golf in 1992 to begin a transformation to a female with hormone therapy. Bagger had the sex-change operation three years later, then resumed playing in 1998.

    For those concerned she has a physical advantage over the other women in the field -- which includes Karrie Webb, Laura Davies and Rachel Teske -- Bagger says they are misinformed.

    "People aren't aware of what's involved with transsexualism," said Bagger, who is 5-foot-10 and 150 pounds. "People aren't aware that there are certain physiological changes you go through with hormone replacement therapy. We lose an amount of muscle mass and overall strength as a result.

    "After surgery, those effects are permanent and irreversible."

    Another transsexual, Renee Richards, faced some opposition when she played on the women's tennis tour in the 1970s.

    Bagger, though, is being welcomed. Teske and Davies were among players who supported her appearance at Concord Golf Club.

    "She's a girl now, let her have a go," Davies said. "She's not gaining any advantage from what I understand. She doesn't hit the ball 350 yards. Why not give her a chance?"

    This event might be the only chance Bagger gets.

    The LPGA Tour, U.S. Golf Association and the Ladies European Tour have policies that players must be female at birth.

    The reason for that restriction was Charlotte Wood, a transsexual who was 50 when she finished third in the 1987 U.S. Senior Women's Amateur, and reached the semifinals of the U.S. Women's Mid-Amateur.

    The USGA put the "female at birth" clause in its entry forms in 1989, while the LPGA Tour added the restriction in 1991.

    "We live in interesting and ever-changing times," LPGA Tour commissioner Ty Votaw said Wednesday. "How other organizations deal with this, such as the IOC, is something we're looking at in relation to this specific policy. But right now, our regulations are they have to be female at birth."

    The International Olympic Committee last week put off a decision allowing transsexuals to compete in the Olympics, saying more time was needed to consider all the medical issues.

    The IOC medical commission proposed that athletes who have had sex-change operations be eligible for the games after hormone therapy and a two-year waiting period.

    Women's Golf Australia, which runs the Women's Australian Open, removed its "female at birth" clause in 1998 and gave Bagger an exemption to the tournament.

    "I think the publicity has been enormous," WGA president Sally Hamersley said. "But quite honestly, I feel for the player. It's going to be quite a weight for her to carry."

    Votaw was at the Australian Ladies Masters last week, and met Bagger when he stopped by Concord Golf Club to visit players.

    "She seemed like a very nice person who is just trying to play some golf," Votaw said. "I introduced myself to her and wished her luck and told her to have fun."

    Still, her presence has created a lot of attention.

    "I can say I thought I'd never have to answer a question like that," Webb said when asked how she felt about playing against a transsexual. "It's up to the tournament, and they can choose to use their sponsor's exemptions any way they want. I have not met her, and it doesn't really bother me. But I'll be interested to see how she does this week."

    After Bagger resumed playing golf in 1998, she won the South Australian State Championship for amateurs in 1999, 2001 and 2002, and turned pro last summer by joining the Danish PGA.

    Bagger says she is not a power player, and only hits the ball about 240 yards off the tee.

    All she wants this week is a chance.

    "I want to play professional golf and have the same opportunities as other women," she said.

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    SHE LOOK DAMN GOOD!!! Wow.....

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    Originally posted by Sugahkhayne
    umm post a pic of this person
    sorry about that

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    Originally posted by EmpressRevolution
    SHE LOOK DAMN GOOD!!! Wow.....
    if that's her up above she don't look Chinese

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