Thread: Believing in a Religion is a Pre Requisite to have Good Character?

I guess that's true if a guy must believe in god to not be considered a loser or a candidate in the dating market.


The belief in a religion is merely the belief in a religion. It has no bearings on how a person conducts themselves in society and in the well being of mankind.

lol

dat comment burning u huh

Originally Posted by optimizm

The belief in a religion is merely the belief in a religion. It has no bearings on how a person conducts themselves in society and in the well being of mankind.

yes it could have a bearing and sometimes it has no bearing at all.. depends on the individual

Originally Posted by T-MAKAA

dat comment burning u huh

It not burning. I just find it funny and insulting.Vega is cool people.I just trying to show how silly it looks to say people must believe in religion to have values.

What are your thoughts?

Originally Posted by Hello BKLYN

yes it could have a bearing and sometimes it has no bearing at all.. depends on the individual

How could it?

Originally Posted by optimizm

How could it?

we had this discussion already... when you said morals cannot come from religion and your reasoning was all the wars and enslavement brought on by religion...

But what about all the wars that had nothing to do with religion, and were brought on by greed and the quest to concur land and people and so forth...

what about all the abolishonists and pacifists that were motivated by religious values

what about abolishonists and pacifists that were not motivated by religious values but were motivated by wanting to see humane conditions for mankind?

It can go either way...

but i do agree that it is silly that someone be considered a loser because they do not fear or praise a god if that is what you are refering to

Originally Posted by optimizm

It not burning. I just find it funny and insulting.Vega is cool people.I just trying to show how silly it looks to say people must believe in religion to have values.

What are your thoughts?

I say a person who follows a religion in which they see conflicting teachings as well as hypocritical characters and turn a blind eye is a loser.

I say ppl who believe we came from monkeys are losers.

Actually i dont think either are "losers", i just think they are just blinded. Saying loser is a bit harsh.

Originally Posted by Hello BKLYN

we had this discussion already... when you said morals cannot come from religion and your reasoning was all the wars and enslavement brought on by religion...

But what about all the wars that had nothing to do with religion, and were brought on by greed and the quest to concur land and people and so forth...

what about all the abolishonists and pacifists that were motivated by religious values

what about abolishonists and pacifists that were not motivated by religious values but were motivated by wanting to see humane conditions for mankind?

It can go either way...

but i do agree that it is silly that someone be considered a loser because they do not fear or praise a god if that is what you are refering to

There was a chapel on the slave ports of West Africa? Slavery is advocated in the bible.




The point is that religion does not dictate a person's moral judgement towards humanity.

Originally Posted by T-MAKAA

I say a person who follows a religion in which they see conflicting teachings as well as hypocritical characters and turn a blind eye is a loser.

I say ppl who believe we came from monkeys are losers.

Actually i dont think either are "losers", i just think they are just blinded. Saying loser is a bit harsh.

Makes sense

Originally Posted by optimizm

There was a chapel on the slave ports of West Africa? Slavery is advocated in the bible.




The point is that religion does not dictate a person's moral judgement towards humanity.

you are missing my point... i know this stuff... i even know religion was used to justify enslavement of peoples...

But there are people who believe the exact opposite.. you keep bring up examples of where religion was used to perpetuate injustices.. but for every one of those examples there are hundreds of instances where religion was used as a good moral compass... you think Martin Luther King was not influenced by religion at all.. Hitler and many neo-nazis use the bible and christianity to justify all kinds of shit... but people like MLK used it for other things... Like i said it depends on the individual and how they interpret or convolute the thing

Originally Posted by optimizm

I guess that's true if a guy must believe in god to not be considered a loser or a candidate in the dating market.


The belief in a religion is merely the belief in a religion. It has no bearings on how a person conducts themselves in society and in the well being of mankind.

a lot of black men, no matter how REPROBATE dem be, require a woman to be churchgoing in order for her to have any chance of being considered a good girl and worthy of their respect.

Never mind that the only time dem see the inside of a church as the old saying goes is when dem hatch, match, and dispatch!

Originally Posted by Hello BKLYN

you are missing my point... i know this stuff... i even know religion was used to justify enslavement of peoples...

But there are people who believe the exact opposite.. you keep bring up examples of where religion was used to perpetuate injustices.. but for every one of those examples there are hundreds of instances where religion was used as a good moral compass... you think Martin Luther King was not influenced by religion at all.. Hitler and many neo-nazis use the bible and christianity to justify all kinds of shit... but people like MLK used it for other things... Like i said it depends on the individual and how they interpret or convolute the thing

a lot of west indians have the catholic church to thank for their quality education...you think all those catholic schools all over the caribbean just happened to name the way they name?

Originally Posted by Hello BKLYN

you are missing my point... i know this stuff... i even know religion was used to justify enslavement of peoples...

But there are people who believe the exact opposite.. you keep bring up examples of where religion was used to perpetuate injustices.. but for every one of those examples there are hundreds of instances where religion was used as a good moral compass... you think Martin Luther King was not influenced by religion at all.. Hitler and many neo-nazis use the bible and christianity to justify all kinds of shit... but people like MLK used it for other things... Like i said it depends on the individual and how they interpret or convolute the thing

No, they did it because they though it was in the best virtue for mankind, not because of what their religious belief tells them.

So legislators in congress use religion as a basis to determine what needs to be passed? I don't think so.

Religion has no place in politics or government.

Originally Posted by Brownilus

a lot of black men, no matter how REPROBATE dem be, require a woman to be churchgoing in order for her to have any chance of being considered a good girl and worthy of their respect.

Never mind that the only time dem see the inside of a church as the old saying goes is when dem hatch, match, and dispatch!

nonsense

so how you know what was in there heads at the time they did what they did.. people already told you stop saying things with absolute certainty that you have no way of knowing for sure...
So you are saying absolutely nobody during the civil rights movement, or abolitionist or pacifists, even those who protest abortion do what they do because of christians values ingrained in them?