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Old 11-06-2009, 10:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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He dont owe beans nothing, but if he not puttin out beans music, he shoulda just let him go instead of holdin him when he had a deal on the table... Why "wharehouse" an artist on the shelf if you not allowing his music to see the light of day
b/c a contract is a contract. If Beans want out then buy yourself out or get 50 to buy you out of the contract.
You see this is why all these guys end up nowhere. Absolutely NO BUSINESS sense and then wanna get mad at Jay-Z for not continuing to follow a "hood" mentality.

I keep telling people all the time a hood mentality will only get you so far, at some point you gotta elevate your thinking. No one told Beans to get locked up.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:18 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Rinababy View Post
b/c a contract is a contract. If Beans want out then buy yourself out or get 50 to buy you out of the contract.
You see this is why all these guys end up nowhere. Absolutely NO BUSINESS sense and then wanna get mad at Jay-Z for not continuing to follow a "hood" mentality.

I keep telling people all the time a hood mentality will only get you so far, at some point you gotta elevate your thinking. No one told Beans to get locked up.
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A contract is more than "so many albums in so many years". A contract has enough fine print to keep us busy for days so let dem stay dey.
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Originally Posted by Rinababy View Post
b/c a contract is a contract. If Beans want out then buy yourself out or get 50 to buy you out of the contract.
You see this is why all these guys end up nowhere. Absolutely NO BUSINESS sense and then wanna get mad at Jay-Z for not continuing to follow a "hood" mentality.

I keep telling people all the time a hood mentality will only get you so far, at some point you gotta elevate your thinking. No one told Beans to get locked up.
exacto!
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:14 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Rinababy View Post
b/c a contract is a contract. If Beans want out then buy yourself out or get 50 to buy you out of the contract.
You see this is why all these guys end up nowhere. Absolutely NO BUSINESS sense and then wanna get mad at Jay-Z for not continuing to follow a "hood" mentality.

I keep telling people all the time a hood mentality will only get you so far, at some point you gotta elevate your thinking. No one told Beans to get locked up.

So, moral of the story.....

Beans shouldn't be bothered....he had all the opportunity to out snake, the snakes and neglected to do so. Wow!
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:20 AM   #35 (permalink)
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So, moral of the story.....

Beans shouldn't be bothered....he had all the opportunity to out snake, the snakes and neglected to do so. Wow!
No the moral of the story is Beans shoulda focused on his business and creating something for himself instead of getting in trouble with the law and depending on someone else for his success.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:21 AM   #36 (permalink)
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So, moral of the story.....

Beans shouldn't be bothered....he had all the opportunity to out snake, the snakes and neglected to do so. Wow!
he also had opportunity to make something of himself a lot easier. an opportunity that too many people are just given.

can you admit he threw away his career?
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:44 AM   #37 (permalink)
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he also had opportunity to make something of himself a lot easier. an opportunity that too many people are just given.

can you admit he threw away his career?

threw away his career how so?

going to jail?

bottomline, we know artist don't make the bulk of their icome from record sales....

it's from shows/appearances/endorsements.


But, your not doing any of the above if you're in jail....and, you are not doing any of thee above if you don't have any current music out. You don't put my music out or promote it right. You kill or diminish my oppotunity to make the bulk of my income.


also, as far as the two Bentleys/living above your means...which Jay try to state. Isn't apart of the Rap image/product/marketing is to glorify what you have or seek. That's been the basic subject point, from it's inception. How many cars you have, how many women you get, How big your house is. Let's not forget, a basic formula of success in Rap is to fake it to you make it. the public loves the underdog, rising on top theme. We love the whole, last year you was pushing a ford taurus, and now you pushing a Ferrari.


I find a lot thisngs bean said in the interview to be legitimate points, like ..."hey if you want to move on to another level, that's fine....but don't stop me from eating."

Also , Jay said in the clip above, how beans had all these business ventures. Which beans refuted as not being true, cuz they were shams'. They were using beans popularity to market they own business. They were shaming him believe he had a business, when he was really just endorsing their business.


I can't wrong Beans for feeling like Jay, could have handle things like a man and say.."heres the deal" and not b1tch out. If you have nothing to hide or feel guilty over, why you can talk to me straight on the phone. Why have to talk to ur assistants, whey you having me escorted out of events by feds & police?


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Yeh, successful people tend to be some ruthless people. Look at the Correalation...50 cent...Jay Z...Diddy...Machel....
Difference with 50 is that he looked after his homies Yayo & Banks...
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Difference with 50 is that he looked after his homies Yayo & Banks...

that's true....


cuz, look at Jaz-O. He brought Jay into the game, and he is disgruntled. Look at duhaney, who brought jay into the drug game....who gave him the material to sell many albums with.
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Originally Posted by Colossus View Post
So, moral of the story.....

Beans shouldn't be bothered....he had all the opportunity to out snake, the snakes and neglected to do so. Wow!
Nope...the moral of the story is what we've all known. The love of money is the root of all evil...and where money is concerned...friends and business don't make a good mix

"Get that paper" "Get that money right" The 'hood' mentality is about rising above all odds, no? Not 'get my friends to pull me up'

lol

this is funny

it's a cut throat world. some people are morally inclined. Others do what they have to do to get what they want. May not make it right but that's the way the cookie crumbles
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Originally Posted by Colossus View Post
that's true....


cuz, look at Jaz-O. He brought Jay into the game, and he is disgruntled. Look at duhaney, who brought jay into the drug game....who gave him the material to sell many albums with.
All a dem bitter b/c Jay Z sitting on top of the world while the rest a dem barely got a pot to piss in. Unless these dudes can prove that Jay stole from them, they all need to stfu.
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Originally Posted by Colossus View Post
that's true....

cuz, look at Jaz-O. He brought Jay into the game, and he is disgruntled. Look at duhaney, who brought jay into the drug game....who gave him the material to sell many albums with.
Jay is a shady dude and whenever people complain about him, others are quick to criticise...
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Jay is a shady dude and whenever people complain about him, others are quick to criticise...
maybe b/c its never anyone successful that does b!tch and complain its always the flunkies that wanna cry about "he wasn't fair" steups.....
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Originally Posted by Colossus View Post
that's true....


cuz, look at Jaz-O. He brought Jay into the game, and he is disgruntled. Look at duhaney, who brought jay into the drug game....who gave him the material to sell many albums with.
dehaven, and he aint the only one. Dude makes good music, as a person hes a snake and you can see it in his eyes
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maybe b/c its never anyone successful that does b!tch and complain its always the flunkies that wanna cry about "he wasn't fair" steups.....
Rinababy, the thing is that many people are saying the same thing when it comes to Jay...

Method Man, Joe Budden, Ja Rule, DMX, LL Cool J, Cam'ron, Nas and even 50 Cent among others are talking greasy about him...

I would go far back and say that Pac was exposing that dude way before all this happened...
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