it does have some similarities.......certain instruments and progression differ but yup there are some rythmic similarities

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Yep.Daz wat I tink 2.

but she didn't say that zouk is soca sang in a different language.
zouk is zouk and soca is soca. they are both from the same region so of course they share similarities, but they are not the same thing.

ok...i was on the right track to what i thought was zouk..it sounds good..u have a nice voice by the way

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i real like tha song love's gone

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So now leh meh ask yo' dis question.If someone was 2 say 2 me,"Bara gyal,lemme play another version of soca fo' yo' buh it's sung in creole and iz called zouk".Wat would you say 2 dat?

girl that song was was my "getting over it" track. after I wrote it I was gooood

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well i would say.... zouk is NOT another version of soca.

i think that is where we do not agree.
there are some soca music that resemble and has a zouk effect in them such as some of da bahn band music, but it is still not zouk..

was was

I can't believe this "Bara" is fuhreal but anyway...haven't you even heard of Kassav? As was said before, zouk is zouk, soca is soca....either has its own style and identity...language is a mere "inoffensif". The beats are not all that similar: soca is typically an aggressive party-type of music whereas zouk tends to be more conducive to slow yet deliberate rythmic movements. Even though zouk can also be pacy, the themes are different: zouk, being a french antillean art, is usually the object of many a love episode/scenario...soca doesn't quite look the part.

Of course, the term "soca" is expanding: If you're looking for a genre where the themes overlap, check Bajan ragga soca....or what some islanders refer to as "groovy" soca...you're more likely to pick up the zouk "throb" in the beat.

Again, my condolences......neva hear zouk? Wuh heyy....

Burning Flames made a zouk tune in 1988 name "Choukwe" from their "Mek E Bark" album. The beat/rythym in this tune to me sounds like the same rhythm used about 5 years or so later in the High top rhythm from the Bajan tune Ring Bang which turn out to be the most prominent rhythm used by many soca artists and bands years to follow up to this date.

Sister,I am fuhreal.Make no mistake.

Yes,I have even heard of Kassav.I have even heard of Tanya St.Val,Malavoi,Thierry Cham,Kaysha,Jean-Claude Naimro ,Mariejose Alie, and Liyannaj.

Don't get me wrong,I do agree and say that zouk is zouk,soca is soca.......,but when I ask about the version of the two musical art forms I am looking and trying to get at what is common between them rather than what is different.Just like what is common between our cultures rather than what is different.That is not to say that the differences should not be discussed.I opened this thread for discussion of open dialogue on two great music forms of our people.

There are various dimensions to soca music which began as an "offspring" to calypso music.While for the most part it is more,and as you referred to it as "aggressive",up-tempo party-type music that you hear today,it is also "conducive to slow yet deliberate rhythmic movements".A very slow-groove rhythmic one.

And, the term "soca" HAS BEEN EXPANDING SINCE ITS INCEPTION.Do you know when that was?

One more thing.As you can see by my knowledge of zouk artists,your condolences are unneccessary.It's unfounded.

you know Kaysha.....cool. I like his style....he fuses hip hop with zouk. He seems to think he's the pdiddy of the zouk world though.

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Zouk is a distinct genre in itself, as is soca.