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T-MAKAA · 03-30-2009, 12:21 PM

I'm doing that same program.

mz_JazE · 03-30-2009, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by T-MAKAA

I'm doing that same program.

what are your feelings about the program? Is it really worth the investment, or do you feel like you could've hung around your IT friends showing you some new things?

ya not pullin' my leg are ya?

T-MAKAA · 03-31-2009, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by mz_JazE

what are your feelings about the program? Is it really worth the investment, or do you feel like you could've hung around your IT friends showing you some new things?

ya not pullin' my leg are ya?

Not pulling your leg at all. It only looks good on paper..I really havent learned that much in school to be honest. Well I'll phrase it better I learned much more among other techs. IT Security classes that I took was really worth it.

To answer you, with that under ya belt plus certifications and experience you are ahead of most people. This is a program that teaches you from a managerial perspective.

mz_JazE · 03-31-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by T-MAKAA

Not pulling your leg at all. It only looks good on paper..I really havent learned that much in school to be honest. Well I'll phrase it better I learned much more among other techs. IT Security classes that I took was really worth it.

To answer you, with that under ya belt plus certifications and experience you are ahead of most people. This is a program that teaches you from a managerial perspective.

ooooooooh okay, good to hear...the way it was describe to me by my "advisor" was that it was good for those who didn't have the basic experience in the IT field (but should have thought managerial *duh*).

Spranga · 03-31-2009, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by T-MAKAA

Not pulling your leg at all. It only looks good on paper..I really havent learned that much in school to be honest. Well I'll phrase it better I learned much more among other techs. IT Security classes that I took was really worth it.

To answer you, with that under ya belt plus certifications and experience you are ahead of most people. This is a program that teaches you from a managerial perspective.

This is true. you really don't learn much field work in school. You're better off sticking ur head in those books on ur own in addition to class...and volunteering/intern. As much hands on experience and reading as possible.

broaman · 06-15-2009, 12:12 PM

It is agreed that industry standard focus on certification and experience. A masters degree is a step above the certification level. A masters degree put you in the driver seat in administration where you are not involved in getting your hands dirty but primarily with directing. If you want to be a director or C level management by all means go for your masters, however if you are interested in doing the work the certification is the way to go. Also if you going for the masters you will need to have some experience.

Oneshot · 07-10-2009, 10:18 AM

For those who exist in non traditional tech industries, for example firms that their business is not software development or IT consulting such as finance, law, etc did you find it advantageous to develop skills outside of your sphere of influence, a situation could be if you worked at an insurance firm did some underwriting course.

Yankee Doodle · 07-10-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Oneshot

For those who exist in non traditional tech industries, for example firms that their business is not software development or IT consulting such as finance, law, etc did you find it advantageous to develop skills outside of your sphere of influence, a situation could be if you worked at an insurance firm did some underwriting course.

Well, when I was in human resources, I did take a few classes/HR training. While I did not go through everything, it did help me get a better view of the business. It helped me create better software for them because of it.

cassette_craig · 07-11-2009, 05:44 PM

yeah i find dis is what i do a lot. I used to work for Singer as their M.I.S rep and most times when i had free time i used to find myself on the floor talking to customers and trying to understand what they were looking. I had a real hard headed boss though suh making suggestions to him jus fell on deaf ears. When i used to unlock phones, yeah i guess in a way the different departments makes u want to at least understand whassup.

broaman · 07-14-2009, 09:53 AM

Right now the gap has been bridged in the IT World. I remember looking for jobs and seeing hospitals looking for IT personel with experience in SQL and Crytsal reports and reading further down the requirements the candidtate had to be an RN. To me I really did not see how the two relate to each other but roles are expanding and it is worth it to get all the experience you possibly can. Just imagine you have a degree in an IT related field and satisfy all the requirements but one which the employer considers to be the most important which is that of being an RN. Funny isn't it?

cassette_craig · 07-14-2009, 11:46 AM

whats an rn? Real Nerd??

broaman · 07-14-2009, 04:41 PM

Registered Nurse.... I was doing some research also and found out that quite a few of them were getting qualified in the health information systems field.

Spranga · 07-14-2009, 05:13 PM

see... i don't like that one bit

cassette_craig · 07-14-2009, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by broaman

Registered Nurse.... I was doing some research also and found out that quite a few of them were getting qualified in the health information systems field.

oh NICE

Bago20 · 09-19-2009, 12:01 AM

Sorry i now seeing this darling. These are dealing with mostly network security. As for the certification vs degree, it depends, both would pay just as good if you have either, but usually the degree along with the certification sets you above the bar than the rest.

Security +

CompTIA Security+

MCSE

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en...tion/mcse.aspx

MCSA

Microsoft Learning: Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA)

CCENT

CCENT - Career Certifications & Paths - Cisco Systems

CCNA Security

CCNA Security - Career Certifications & Paths - Cisco Systems

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03-30-2009, 12:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
T-MAKAA Flopic Saver Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 15,509 Credits: 147,818	I'm doing that same program.

06-15-2009, 12:12 PM	#21 (permalink)
broaman Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: oklahoma Posts: 10 Credits: 4,081	It is agreed that industry standard focus on certification and experience. A masters degree is a step above the certification level. A masters degree put you in the driver seat in administration where you are not involved in getting your hands dirty but primarily with directing. If you want to be a director or C level management by all means go for your masters, however if you are interested in doing the work the certification is the way to go. Also if you going for the masters you will need to have some experience.

07-10-2009, 10:18 AM	#22 (permalink)
Oneshot where de crix Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 16,857 Credits: 24,365	For those who exist in non traditional tech industries, for example firms that their business is not software development or IT consulting such as finance, law, etc did you find it advantageous to develop skills outside of your sphere of influence, a situation could be if you worked at an insurance firm did some underwriting course.

07-14-2009, 09:53 AM	#25 (permalink)
broaman Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: oklahoma Posts: 10 Credits: 4,081	Right now the gap has been bridged in the IT World. I remember looking for jobs and seeing hospitals looking for IT personel with experience in SQL and Crytsal reports and reading further down the requirements the candidtate had to be an RN. To me I really did not see how the two relate to each other but roles are expanding and it is worth it to get all the experience you possibly can. Just imagine you have a degree in an IT related field and satisfy all the requirements but one which the employer considers to be the most important which is that of being an RN. Funny isn't it?

07-14-2009, 04:41 PM	#27 (permalink)
broaman Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: oklahoma Posts: 10 Credits: 4,081	Registered Nurse.... I was doing some research also and found out that quite a few of them were getting qualified in the health information systems field.