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Old 01-19-2006, 09:09 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Simple Simon
I dont know it that well to really teach you a whole lot.
You'd probably have to read the Gita
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The Gita, like Honey Empress posted above, is the dialogue between Arjuna, a warrior and Sri Krishna. Krishna is encouraging Arjuna to fight a war - he is encouraging him to act.

Krisha is really teaching Arjuna the principles of Yoga (union- with the divine). He teaches Arjuna that the "best life" is to accpept one's Dharma (life duty). i.e. to not act in senses but in the Self.

I guess we can bring some information here for everyone to read perhaps. Soca souljah or Simple Simon if you plan on doing any research or you find anything bring it here for all of us to read... this post has definitely peeked my interest and couldn't help but find some books from my library that I have about pertaining this thread:


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Opening to Spirit : Contacting the Healing Power of the Chakras and Honouring African Spirituality (Paperback)

Chakras are vibrant wheels of energy that support your health and well-being.

This in-depth exploration of the chakra system draws on a wealth of wisdom and mythology from ancient Egypt, early India and West Africa. The
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Old 01-19-2006, 09:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by HoneyEmpress
so wait, are you a Yardhindian ?? lol.. just kiddin man!

I've also done some research on the Ancient Chakra System. I was given this great book when I was 18 called Opening To Spirit
Contacting the helaing Power of the Chakras & Honouring African Spirituality... I also studied Yoga for a year in college and it applied a great spiritual sense of the auras and techniques of meditation and balancing our chakras.


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BLESSED LOVE EMPRESS ! LONG TIME NO SPEAK


how are yuh ?
Eh S.Souljah, I good man... had a crazy day at work... but vibzin up mi energy with a nice Imix thread, research, and Steel Pulse to keep mi' goin'!
(thanks Simple Simon fuh blessin' us tonight with it)

S.Souljah how are you? Just wondering what's your religion/faith/spirituality/or way of life??
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Old 01-19-2006, 09:17 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by soca_souljah
Sikhs - belief in One God , Equality for all mankind, denounces superstitions and blind rituals
all the Indian religions...Janism, Sikhism, Buddhism are all borne from the same thing - Vedic Culture...

Hinduism has one Supreme God - Brahman..all the the other Gods are manifestation of the One God.

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intersting that you should post this... yu dun know mi like explore religions... I wanted to make a comparison between Vedic culture and African culture....I've been told over and over that the Vedas come from the Aryans and I'm not convinced.
If 1st man was from Africa then migrated..he must have took some of his myths with him?) ****different thread..

I really hope I can read this ..looks like a good place to start.
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Originally Posted by Simple Simon
all the Indian religions...Janism, Sikhism, Buddhism are all borne from the same thing - Vedic Culture...

Hinduism has one Supreme God - Brahman..all the the other Gods are manifestation of the One God.

Think of it like this, like Christianity different groups or denominations (*all share the same core beliefs, but some of the things they do will be vastly different from each other*) or in the Yoruba faith, various groups but all stem from one place.

Krishna and the stories associated with him appear across the spectrum of Hindu philosophical and theological traditions. Though they sometimes differ in details or even contradict each other reflecting the concerns of a particular tradition, some core features are shared by all. These include a divine incarnation, a pastoral childhood and youth and life as a heroic warrior and teacher. The immense popularity of Krishna in India also meant that various non-Hindu religions that originated in India had their own versions of him.
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Originally Posted by HoneyEmpress
Eh S.Souljah, I good man... had a crazy day at work... but vibzin up mi energy with a nice Imix thread, research, and Steel Pulse to keep mi' goin'!
(thanks Simple Simon fuh blessin' us tonight with it)

S.Souljah how are you? Just wondering what's your religion/faith/spirituality/or way of life??
I was SDA but i'm searching other paths

I haven't choose one but MAAT, rastafari , are a few paths that strike up interest !

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Originally Posted by Simple Simon
intersting that you should post this... yu dun know mi like explore religions... I wanted to make a comparison between Vedic culture and African culture....I've been told over and over that the Vedas come from the Aryans and I'm not convinced. If 1st man was from Africa then migrated..he must have took some of his myths with him?) ****different thread..

I really hope I can read this ..looks like a good place to start.

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Originally Posted by soca_souljah
I was SDA but i'm searching other paths

I haven't choose one but MAAT, rastafari , are a few paths that strike up interest !
why do you think you need a specific path?

I dont think there is a specific path.

Some scholars will say that Vedic culture is the most preserved path - The Vedas as it is today is as it was in the beginning. The doctrine doesnt seem to be altered they say..

Agony sez I'm Ras YardHindian ...
from my study I've come to realize that all one really need to know is that there is a force stronger than he. All that is left is to pay homage to it by creating a union with it and the Self ..glorify it and Self and like Bob say ..."every likkle thing is gonna be alright".....
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Originally Posted by Simple Simon
intersting that you should post this... yu dun know mi like explore religions... I wanted to make a comparison between Vedic culture and African culture....I've been told over and over that the Vedas come from the Aryans and I'm not convinced.
If 1st man was from Africa then migrated..he must have took some of his myths with him?) ****different thread..

I really hope I can read this ..looks like a good place to start.

Well you definitely want to read this because it draws on Ancient Egypt, West Africa, and Early India.

Allyuh may want to check this link out:
Vedic Connection-Ancient Vedic World

Vedas and ancient Egypt:
If we look at the Vedic tradition, we see that it was based upon an ancient priestly order that was extensive and sophisticated, comparable to the priestly orders of ancient Egypt or Babylonia. This priestly order was concerned not merely with rituals but also with spirituality, yoga, philosophy, medicine, astronomy and architecture that form the basis of the various Upavedas and Vedangas.

For an imaginative account of the relations between the ancient Vedic and Egyptian civilization, see Bhagwan Gidwani's monumental (900 pages) novel detailing Aryan movement out of India to other parts of the world and their eventual return to India in "Return of the Aryans" (New Delhi: Penguin India 1994). See particularly chapters "Kings of Egypt and the Language of the Gods" and "Egypt and the Kingdom of Ajitab."
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Originally Posted by Simple Simon
why do you think you need a specific path?

I dont think there is a specific path.

Some scholars will say that Vedic culture is the most preserved path - The Vedas as it is today is as it was in the beginning. The doctrine doesnt seem to be altered they say..

Agony sez I'm Ras YardHindian ...
from my study I've come to realize that all one really need to know is that there is a force stronger than he. All that is left is to pay homage to it by creating a union with it and the Self ..glorify it and Self and like Bob say ..."every likkle thing is gonna be alright".....

I actually half way co-sign, lol... I think we all can claim so many paths, why one may ask? Well look at some of us, especially coming from the Caribbean or just from years of bi-cultural marriages, we're all very different. Not only is our physical make up and race are mixed but our spiritual paths are all so very different and universally combined. I was telling my friend, Rory the other day that each time I come across something in life spiritually or culturally and I know my ancestors are of the culture/religion/ way of life I add and claim it to my name... Like how we take one of our parent's name, I respect my ancestor's spiritual beliefs and try to understand it. I know for a fact that my great great grandmother was from Calcutta (I'm not Hindu) but I respect what some of my family members have eventually claimed as their faith. I know for a fact that on both sides of my family there is a West African blood that runs through our veins (and when I hear drums or around that vibe I know it's APART OF ME and chose to follow this path), I also know that 2 of my great grandmothers were mixed with Carib Indians which means one of their parents were full blood Carib (and these indigenous people had their own spirituality which I researched and I respect)... I think we can't help but want to know and understand other cultures because if not all but pieces of it speak to us and we're called to it. But if one meditates and become one within themselves they can find what makes them ONE.
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Well you definitely want to read this because it draws on Ancient Egypt, West Africa, and Early India.

Allyuh may want to check this link out:
Vedic Connection-Ancient Vedic World
l like this..the site has references..... nice.....
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Originally Posted by HoneyEmpress
I actually half way co-sign, lol... I think we all can claim so many paths, why one may ask? Well look at some of us, especially coming from the Caribbean or just from years of bi-cultural marriages, we're all very different. Not only is our physical make up and race are mixed but our spiritual paths are all so very different and universally combined. I was telling my friend, Rory the other day that each time I come across something in life spiritually or culturally and I know my ancestors are of the culture/religion/ way of life I add and claim it to my name... Like how we take one of our parent's name, I respect my ancestor's spiritual beliefs and try to understand it. I know for a fact that my great great grandmother was from Calcutta (I'm not Hindu) but I respect what some of my family members have eventually claimed as their faith. I know for a fact that on both sides of my family there is a West African blood that runs through our veins (and when I hear drums or around that vibe I know it's APART OF ME and chose to follow this path), I also know that 2 of my great grandmothers were mixed with Carib Indians which means one of their parents were full blood Carib (and these indigenous people had their own spirituality which I researched and I respect)... I think we can't help but want to know and understand other cultures because if not all but pieces of it speak to us and we're called to it. But if one meditates and become one within themselves they can find what makes them ONE.
You do have a point about accepting the culture of fore-fathers. Its is way easier. like me for instance -being from Jamaica it may be easier for me to understand Rastafari than say someone from Russia... like you said its like your forefatheres callin yu....but most times I can only feel the African part of me....maybe I've numbed myself unconsciously to the Euro part.... (I dunno)

but like you said meditation makes one become ONE. I think man, regardless of race, class, nationality etc all have the same inate nature and is subject to the same "earth forces" (Prakrati in Hinduism)..for instance if rain falls on a white man and a black man they both get wet.

It is up to him to learn/understand the force - then overcome it.
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You do have a point about accepting the culture of fore-fathers. Its is way easier. like me for instance -being from Jamaica it may be easier for me to understand Rastafari than say someone from Russia... like you said its like your forefatheres callin yu....but most times I can only feel the African part of me....maybe I've numbed myself unconsciously to the Euro part.... (I dunno)

but like you said meditation makes one become ONE. I think man, regardless of race, class, nationality etc all have the same inate nature and is subject to the same "earth forces" (Prakrati in Hinduism)..for instance if rain falls on a white man and a black man they both get wet.

It is up to him to learn/understand the force - then overcome it.
*gets pen n' journal*
One day my child will be reading that quote and underneath it will say Simple Simon said it January 19, 2006! lol... (I'm creating a journal of quotes to give mi children and I tiefin dat right there, sorry) lol...
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*gets pen n' journal*
One day my child will be reading that quote and underneath it will say Simple Simon said it January 19, 2006! lol... (I'm creating a journal of quotes to give mi children and I tiefin dat right there, sorry) lol...
all they need...a quote from some guy named Simple Simon

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