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My question had/has nothing to do with 'familiar spirit worshippers'...it's a direct question to those who converse with, seek avice from the spirits of the dearly departed.


...oh well.

Question: "What are familiar spirits?"


Answer: The term familiar refers to a relational aspect of association--servitude. In the Old Testament we find that familiar spirits are mentioned more than a few times: Leviticus 19:31, 20:6, 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:9-14; 1 Samuel 28:7-9; 2 Kings 21:6, 23:24; 1 Chronicles 10:13-14; 2 Chronicles 33:6; Isaiah 8:19, 19:3, 29:4. A familiar spirit, then, is a demon who identifies itself with another person. We also see similar demon-human relationships in the New Testament: Matthew 9:32, 12:43-45, 15:22, 17:15-18; Mark 5:1-20, 9:17-26; Acts 16:16-18, 19:15-16; 1 Timothy 4:1.



In the above mentioned verses, the Bible speaks very clearly regarding familiar spirits. They are demons, and only propagate the will and message of their master, Satan. They use people to spread lies and deceit, to thwart the Kingdom of God. Knowingly opening oneself to the work of demons is an evil thing: "For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do not let your people practice fortune-telling or sorcery, or allow them to interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft, or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead. Anyone who does these things is an object of horror and disgust to the LORD," (Deuteronomy 18:10-12a NLT).


Some avenues through which demons, a.k.a. "familiar spirits," are given entrance to a person's life are: divination, transcendental meditation, visualization, necromancy, witchcraft, drugs, and alcohol. These are all activities that believers are exhorted, commanded even, to avoid. Instead, we are to be filled with the Holy Spirit, with love, with joy, and with the fullness of life that comes from Jesus Christ. We are also to be on guard, "For we are not fighting against people made of flesh and blood, but against the evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against those mighty powers of darkness who rule this world, and against wicked spirits in the heavenly realms," (Ephesians 6:12 NLT).


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If anyone "Shango Baptist or others" is doing these things it is wrong.

Tell that to Moses, he was the biggest obeah man to walk the face of this earth. Why do you think his books was removed from the king james version But still used by catholic preists and certain lodges? Remember Albertus Magnus, he was a catholic high priest.




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Tell that to Moses, he was the biggest obeah man to walk the face of this earth. Why do you think his books was removed from the king james version But still used by catholic preists and certain lodges? Remember Albertus Magnus, he was a catholic high priest.

God used visualization to create this world. Christ meditated, Joseph and Daniel interpreted dreams and the list goes on. God talks to us when we are in a meditative state.

Tell Moses what? De definition of a famaliar spirit and that serving demons are wrong? As far as I am concerned Moses was a man of God nor do I think the Shango Baptist/Spiritual Baptist or Orishas serve famaliar spirits cuz I am in it myself, so I ent kno what you yapping about. However if "anyone" I dont care what faith you are, does serves familiar spirts they DAMN wrong. So what you want me to tell Moses you can tell him for yourself or you can go consult wid Mr. Bones, Mr. Steele or Scull.. Just leh me know wha they ansa yuh back and say




Who is disputing dis? dat is wha I want to kno?

[COLOR=DarkGreen]Yes Moses was a man of God but he also dealt with the devil. Why do you think the devil also tried to claim his body when he died. Moses was raised by Egyptians and he learnt all their secrets.


I think you mentioned you are a baptist. Are you one only for wearing headtie? Go to church and let you mother educate you. I used to be a baptist and I mourned five times. Yes I did meet Mr Bones and learned a thing or two from him. I also met king cobra and the little buck. But since you are a baptist you should know what I am talking about but then again, I don't know if you reached my height.

Good for you. You ent know where I reach but I ent going into no long Kabala stories. Walk yuh road

Yeah, you don't know a darn thing.

You still a babe still sucklin.

and I see you ent kno ah damn ting........



So what does dat mek you? Kings of Kings and Lord of Lords? leh me stay juss so I ent eva want to reach dem heights you speak of, so you can keep it. I am a babe in the faith I ent no big heffe nor do I proclaim to be, but I know de God whom I serve.

[You are right dear, I am just a dumb dog in Israel. ok. Now take a deeeeeeep breath.[/COLOR]

Well being baptist just as you are, I thought I was serving the same God as you, being that all baptist churches are a chapter under the Order of Melchizedek.

O now you admit you are a babe in the faith. My apologies.