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Old 11-18-2005, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Scientific Theory: Early Humans Settled India Before Europe, Study Suggests

As posted by Kevlocks in "real talk"

Before going any further, this article states that there was life in what is present day India before there was civilization in what is present day Europe. This theory is not too hard to believe, since the present day Continents use to all be one gigantic mass of land. The migration to present day india could've been a closer trip for our ancestors as opposed to going straight for Europe. My issue or concern is why the fascination between the India civilization theory over the European civilization theory? Read the article to open up the floor for debate!
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November 14, 2005
Modern humans migrated out of Africa and into India much earlier than once believed, driving older hominids in present-day India to extinction and creating some of the earliest art and architecture, a new study suggests.

The research places modern humans in India tens of thousands of years before their arrival in Europe.


University of Cambridge researchers Michael Petraglia and Hannah James developed the new theory after analyzing decades' worth of existing fieldwork in India. They outline their research in the journal Current Anthropology.
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Old 11-18-2005, 01:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This is reason I base my idea that these European "religions" we have become some used to are altered.
If Adam and Eve is first man and woman, who were the Indians, and the African before the Indians.

These scientific studies are not new, in fact the Theory of Evolution explains this. The historical records are there for the pragmatic. They are far from conjured up fantasies.

THe reason I have posted it here, becuase the excerpt of "The 7 Golden Secrets To Knowing Your Higher Self" is in direct correlation with the Vedic Traditons.
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Originally Posted by Simple Simon
This is reason I base my idea that these European "religions" we have become some used to are altered.
If Adam and Eve is first man and woman, who were the Indians, and the African before the Indians.

These scientific studies are not new, in fact the Theory of Evolution explains this. The historical records are there for the pragmatic. They are far from conjured up fantasies.

THe reason I have posted it here, becuase the excerpt of "The 7 Golden Secrets To Knowing Your Higher Self" is in direct correlation with the Vedic Traditons.
Wasn't the Garden of Eden in Africa?
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Old 11-18-2005, 01:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i am still lost.. but Black Africans are very much intertwined with early asian societies.. if you check out japanese - you got the black shogun warrior.. chinese (the warriors), there are figurines of the black bhudda also
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Originally Posted by kevlocks
Wasn't the Garden of Eden in Africa?
If it existed it could have been..
but was the idea African?
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Old 11-18-2005, 01:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Simple Simon
If it existed it could have been..
but was the idea African?
no it was human.. anthropoly and genetic lineage all points to africa
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Old 11-18-2005, 02:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Oneshot
no it was human.. anthropoly and genetic lineage all points to africa
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Old 11-18-2005, 08:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
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... Modern humans arrived in Europe around 40,000 years a ... similar events took place in India when modern humans arrived there about 70,000 years ago ... a hominid species that left Africa about 800,000 years ago ... arriving in Australia by 45,000 to 60,000 years ago ... in Africa modern humans arose about 190,000 years ago ... the hallmarks of an early symbolic culture—appear by 28,500 years ago ... found in a cave in Sri Lanka and dated to about 36,000 years ago ...
I take it these paleoanthropologists were able to find the ancient wristwatches worn by these people.
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Originally Posted by Oneshot
i am still lost.. but Black Africans are very much intertwined with early asian societies.. if you check out japanese - you got the black shogun warrior.. chinese (the warriors), there are figurines of the black bhudda also
Afrocentric mythology. Early populations of aboriginal people from the early migrations did exist and still do. Thes people are not the same as Modern Day Africans. Nor did Africans come over and start their civilizations. There are tons of figurines that are carved in dark materials, does not make everyone carved black. Plenty of statues in ivory in Africa, doesn't mean the people carved were European.
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Originally Posted by Agony
I take it these paleoanthropologists were able to find the ancient wristwatches worn by these people.
First through carbon 14. But now through genetic mutations they have been able to clock migrations. Read Genes, populations and Languages by Cavalli-Sforza. very illuminating book.
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Originally Posted by Otorongo
First through carbon 14. But now through genetic mutations they have been able to clock migrations. Read Genes, populations and Languages by Cavalli-Sforza. very illuminating book.
Genetic mutations I understand. I'll look up the text, thanks. It's the C-14 and radiometric dating which amuse most.
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Originally Posted by Agony
Genetic mutations I understand. I'll look up the text, thanks. It's the C-14 and radiometric dating which amuse most.
Yeah C-14 was thought accurate, because hal lives are constant. But the assumption was that the same amount of carbon was in the air. Now what they do is mathch dates that people know of with the rings in a tree, and use the info they get there as far as amount of carbon and calibrate from there. So carbon 14 is still constant and accurate, but they have had to recalibrate a bunch of dates.
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Originally Posted by Otorongo
Yeah C-14 was thought accurate, because hal lives are constant. But the assumption was that the same amount of carbon was in the air. Now what they do is mathch dates that people know of with the rings in a tree, and use the info they get there as far as amount of carbon and calibrate from there. So carbon 14 is still constant and accurate, but they have had to recalibrate a bunch of dates.
Another one of my contentions with the "scientific" fraternity. Genetic mutation, radioactive decay; yes. When we can assume that tree ring growth is consistent and uniform, ignoring the absence of any backup data, science lost its objectivity. Especially when we can't get any tree rings today to go back beyond 4000 B.C. Since we can't account for C-14 concenctration exchange rate to be consistent in reaching this further assumed equilibrium point, we go ahead and assume more, that tree rings in living and some dead samples overlap. They use this as though its fact, and then extrapolate beyond this to achieve dates like 200,000 B.C.
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