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ROME, Italy (CNN) -- The Vatican says it has excommunicated two Chinese bishops consecrated earlier this week to China's government-approved Catholic church, which is not recognized by the Holy See.

The statement from Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls on Thursday called the unapproved ordination of bishops Giuseppe Ma Yinglin and Giuseppe Liu Xinhong "a severe wound to the unity of the Church" and said Pope Benedict XVI was disappointed.

"The Holy Father learned of the news with profound sorrow, because such a relevant act for the life of the Church, as is an Episcopal ordination, was carried out in both cases without respecting the need of communion with the pope," the statement said.

The Vatican also warned against any future ordinations carried out without its approval.

The Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association said the appointments were intended to fill shortages and were not intended to offend the Vatican.

Ties between the Vatican and China were severed after the 1949 Communist revolution.

A big stumbling block remains the Vatican's official recognition of Taiwan, branded by China as a renegade province.

Formal ties between the two sides would give some security to Vatican loyalists in China, who are often harassed and fined and sometimes sent to labor camps, according to The Associated Press.

Most Chinese Catholics can worship only in government-controlled churches, but millions are loyal to the Vatican. But the Vatican said any dialogue was at risk now.

"The Holy See has in various occasions reiterated its willingness to have an honest and constructive dialogue with the competent Chinese authorities to find solutions that would satisfy the legitimate requirements of both sides," Navarro-Valls told AP.

"Initiatives such as those mentioned above not only don't favor this dialogue, but instead create new obstacles against it," he added.

In all honesty, who is he to say this? So, Bernard Law from Massachusetts get's moved to Italy and a borderline promotion, even though he covered up all the rapes of little boys from his churches...and these people get excommunicated.

Now a new branch of catholism.....wat more, they were operating on there own b4

The Pope is a Hardcore Honky with a Nazi Background----

----he ain't about to let no Yellow People dictate the direction of the Catholic Church regardless of how many billions of population there will be in China.

You got to remember when Trinidad born Archbishop Pantin died, the Pope replaced him with a Yankee despite all the pleadings and clamorings from the Trini faithful for a Homeboy.

Now look how the Pope handling Sh8t in America Today:

He got his Frontline Trooper Cardinal Mahony taking a LEADING ROLE in the Immigration Protests........backing the Mexican Influx across Current US Domestic Borders--------

-------The Catholic Church KNOWS that their Future Survival within Current US Domestic Borders IS NOT with Angry White Nationalists..........

.........but with the People who see them Images of the Virgin Mary on every Window and Wall.

what is the holy see?

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a lot more goes into the choice of the a bishop.. current political and racial tensions are usually considered..

when I see a pope in the bible, I'll follow what the pope says.

But wait doan di pope sit pon st peter throne? Is the pope peters successor?

Well, it's not in the bible.

True dat, true dat ! So everthing not in the bible is out for you then lol?

Yep, dealing w. Christianity.