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Old 04-26-2006, 06:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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a matter of religion versus tradition

Most of my family follow Christianity. Even if you don't necessarily go to church, babies are baptisted. My cousin jus had two girls and he didn't have them baptized, so now my mom, his parents, etc. are going on about how its wrong not to baptize your kids. But is it really wrong, if my cousin doesn't go to church, I don't know if he even considers himself religious? Besides, they're his children.

When does tradition overstep religion? Should relgion be left up to the chid or shoud parents actively initiate their children into a religion? (In this case, getting the child baptised).

There's no right or wrong answer of course, jus wanna hear your views.
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226
Most of my family follow Christianity. Even if you don't necessarily go to church, babies are baptisted. My cousin jus had two girls and he didn't have them baptized, so now my mom, his parents, etc. are going on about how its wrong not to baptize your kids. But is it really wrong, if my cousin doesn't go to church, I don't know if he even considers himself religious? Besides, they're his children.

When does tradition overstep religion? Should relgion be left up to the chid or shoud parents actively initiate their children into a religion? (In this case, getting the child baptised).

There's no right or wrong answer of course, jus wanna hear your views.
I believe that if a parent has a particular religious belief, it is natural to raise your child up according to that belief...I don't subscribe to the notion of 'baptizing' babies so I don't think it's a requirement to be introduced to your parent's religion...

My mother raised me up to understand her religion. When I got older, I accepted it for myself because I gained understanding, and accepted its teaching for myself...
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by triniprincess76
I believe that if a parent has a particular religious belief, it is natural to raise your child up according to that belief...I don't subscribe to the notion of 'baptizing' babies so I don't think it's a requirement to be introduced to your parent's religion...

My mother raised me up to understand her religion. When I got older, I accepted it for myself because I gained understanding, and accepted its teaching for myself...

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I wish the rest of my family was this open minded
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226
Most of my family follow Christianity. Even if you don't necessarily go to church, babies are baptisted. My cousin jus had two girls and he didn't have them baptized, so now my mom, his parents, etc. are going on about how its wrong not to baptize your kids. But is it really wrong, if my cousin doesn't go to church, I don't know if he even considers himself religious? Besides, they're his children.

When does tradition overstep religion? Should relgion be left up to the chid or shoud parents actively initiate their children into a religion? (In this case, getting the child baptised).

There's no right or wrong answer of course, jus wanna hear your views.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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For me, tradition itself is sacred and greatly helps in defining what and who you are. However, that adherence to tradition must be accompanied by a sound understanding of what that tradition is, where it came from and as such to simply bring up a child in a tradition without teaching in gradual detail the roots of the tradition, particularly religious traditions as Xianity or Islam which creates mindsets that discourage detailed investigation works out to more harm than good.

I have a baby son and I am adamant that there will be no religious indoctrination of any kind until he is at an age where he can understand or at least ask questions and understands the answers. And of course, I will be the one who will be explaining to him the origin and development of religious traditions and religious ideas, or will send him to those I know can do so without proselytising. After that I shall abide by whatever decision he decides to make.
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just wondering where this baptism comes into play.
I have yet to c where it is supposed to practiced in the bible. I know John the baptist baptised by water but after Christ came we were supposed to be baptized by the spirit no longer by water.
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Originally Posted by Ananci_7
For me, tradition itself is sacred and greatly helps in defining what and who you are. However, that adherence to tradition must be accompanied by a sound understanding of what that tradition is, where it came from and as such to simply bring up a child in a tradition without teaching in gradual detail the roots of the tradition, particularly religious traditions as Xianity or Islam which creates mindsets that discourage detailed investigation works out to more harm than good.

I have a baby son and I am adamant that there will be no religious indoctrination of any kind until he is at an age where he can understand or at least ask questions and understands the answers. And of course, I will be the one who will be explaining to him the origin and development of religious traditions and religious ideas, or will send him to those I know can do so without proselytising. After that I shall abide by whatever decision he decides to make.
Hey stranger.......

I definately agree that blindly following religious tradition not enough.

I kinda figured you wouldn't baptise your son or expose him to such things.
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226
Besides, they're his children. Thats the whole point.They can ask but if he does not want to do it they should respect that

When does tradition overstep religion? Should relgion be left up to the chid or shoud parents actively initiate their children into a religion? (In this case, getting the child baptised).
Its really personal preference.In many instances religion and tadition are intertwined.As the parent its their choice.Sounds like your family just wants him to follow the tradition.


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Originally Posted by saveoursoca
just wondering where this baptism comes into play.
I have yet to c where it is supposed to practiced in the bible. I know John the baptist baptised by water but after Christ came we were supposed to be baptized by the spirit no longer by water.
I think that's the issue at hand. Like ananci said, some people are so quick to follow tradition, yet people may not even have an understanding or comprehention of that said tradition.
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Originally Posted by saveoursoca
just wondering where this baptism comes into play.
I have yet to c where it is supposed to practiced in the bible. I know John the baptist baptised by water but after Christ came we were supposed to be baptized by the spirit no longer by water.
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Old 04-27-2006, 08:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226
Most of my family follow Christianity. Even if you don't necessarily go to church, babies are baptisted. My cousin jus had two girls and he didn't have them baptized, so now my mom, his parents, etc. are going on about how its wrong not to baptize your kids. But is it really wrong, if my cousin doesn't go to church, I don't know if he even considers himself religious? Besides, they're his children.

When does tradition overstep religion? Should relgion be left up to the chid or shoud parents actively initiate their children into a religion? (In this case, getting the child baptised).

There's no right or wrong answer of course, jus wanna hear your views.

BTW isn't the tradition of all baptism based on religion? I see no seperation in this case!
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by CaribNVA
BTW isn't the tradition of all baptism based on religion? I see no seperation in this case!
Yes, but in my family....the members don't seem to care if you follow a religion or not: babies get baptized (period). So if you don't follow that religion (Christianity), then partaking in baptisim becomes an act of tradition as opposed to a practice of religious followings and doctrine. There is a differnce.

The word tradition is not dependent on religion, anything can be a tradition but baptism is simpy a "religious" tradition or a "religous" practice.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226
Yes, but in my family....the members don't seem to care if you follow a religion or not: babies get baptized (period). So if you don't follow that religion (Christianity), then partaking in baptisim becomes an act of tradition as opposed to a practice of religious followings and doctrine. There is a differnce.

The word tradition is not dependent on religion, anything can be a tradition but baptism is simpy a "religious" tradition or a "religous" practice.

I am siding with you on this my friend. I did not baptise my children(that will be their choice). What do you mean by follow the relion?
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Dat is for regular baptism, but where is the Biblical premise for baby baptism?
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