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Old 05-18-2006, 11:35 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I assume he was created in heaven.
oh...I thought he probably did something to earn it...therefore had some faith originally...then lost faith, hated God, left and now we are here today...therefore my original point was...even if you have faith you may not make it to heaven...like Satan.

But doesn't Satan believe in God ? He has faith. He knows God personally, knows his power and miracles. He knows Jesus and the Holy Spirit same way, just he absolutely hates him.
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Jesus is God, he is not a lesser Godhead entity. Son of God is a title Jesus reclaimed from Adam since he lost it because of sin. Jesus is still fully God
tell mi if im wrong, are u saying that god is jesus, he is of a man. you know how jesus is usually depicted white, blue eyes, or jewish. yea i know of the title son of god, but what is this the new testament or something? since when is jesus considered to be god.
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Originally Posted by bk's bajan italia
tell mi if im wrong, are u saying that god is jesus, he is of a man. you know how jesus is usually depicted white, blue eyes, or jewish. yea i know of the title son of god, but what is this the new testament or something? since when is jesus considered to be god.
In the beginning the Word was with God and the Word was good...since the beginning of existance.

Jesus is the word.
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Old 05-18-2006, 11:45 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by bk's bajan italia
tell mi if im wrong, are u saying that god is jesus, he is of a man. you know how jesus is usually depicted white, blue eyes, or jewish. yea i know of the title son of god, but what is this the new testament or something? since when is jesus considered to be god.
Jesus is God. Artist depections of Jesus are just that and nothing more. Depictions
John 1
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Old 05-18-2006, 11:48 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by RotiKing2004eva
oh...I thought he probably did something to earn it...therefore had some faith originally...then lost faith, hated God, left and now we are here today...therefore my original point was...even if you have faith you may not make it to heaven...like Satan.

But doesn't Satan believe in God ? He has faith. He knows God personally, knows his power and miracles. He knows Jesus and the Holy Spirit same way, just he absolutely hates him.
James 2:19
The Bible cleary gives a definition of what faith is. Hewbres 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
I ask again, why would the devil need faith??
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Old 05-18-2006, 12:01 PM   #51 (permalink)
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What exactly do YOU consider to be a SIN ie. What thoughts, words or deeds can YOU list as being a SIN?
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