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Old 10-30-2006, 01:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is God omnipotent?
This is a paradox in iteself. Omnipotent means all powerful and having limitless power. If God is omnipotent (as preached by many), is s/he then capable of killing or eliminating herself/himself?

If you say yes, that means that God is destructable (spelling?) but if you say no then s/he is does not have limitless power and therefore is not omnipontent.

So what are we left with?
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226 View Post
This is a paradox in iteself. Omnipotent means all powerful and having limitless power. If God is omnipotent (as preached by many), is s/he then capable of killing or eliminating herself/himself?

If you say yes, that means that God is destructable (spelling?) but if you say no then s/he is does not have limitless power and therefore is not omnipontent.

So what are we left with?
we r left with assness questions like this one.^
God has left us how many examples of things he cant do?
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226 View Post
This is a paradox in iteself. Omnipotent means all powerful and having limitless power. If God is omnipotent (as preached by many), is s/he then capable of killing or eliminating herself/himself?

If you say yes, that means that God is destructable (spelling?) but if you say no then s/he is does not have limitless power and therefore is not omnipotent.

So what are we left with?

the all too familiar question... yes doesnt necessarily mean God is destructable..

the paradox only arise based on what you percieve God to be...
to most, God is either personal, impersonal (or sometimes both)
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by saveoursoca View Post
we r left with assness questions like this one.^
God has left us how many examples of things he cant do?
SOS.. why is the question assness? what examples did "he" leave?

dont give me the book talk either?
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I know the question well... but prefer it in another format:

Can God create a rock he cannot lift?

If you say yes then it means that God cannot lift the rock and is therefore not omnipotent. If you say no then he cannot create this rock and so is not omnipotent.

The best answer I have heard to this sort of question is that our answers are limited to our human minds. We cannot fathom that God can create a rock he can both lift and cannot lift...
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Originally Posted by Simon S View Post
SOS.. why is the question assness? what examples did "he" leave?

dont give me the book talk either?
Why are you even entertaining the thought of some1 who uses the word "assness?"

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Old 10-30-2006, 02:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226 View Post
Why are you even entertaining the thought of some1 who uses the word "assness?"

*shrugs*
I felt bored.... calling out bible thumpers is fun!
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Originally Posted by Fiyah View Post
I know the question well... but prefer it in another format:

Can God create a rock he cannot lift?

If you say yes then it means that God cannot lift the rock and is therefore not omnipotent. If you say no then he cannot create this rock and so is not omnipotent.

The best answer I have heard to this sort of question is that our answers are limited to our human minds. We cannot fathom that God can create a rock he can both lift and cannot lift...
quagmire for personal god believers
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Originally Posted by Simon S View Post
quagmire for personal god believers
But the answer makes sense... God would be able to do something that our feeble minds cannot even imagine.
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Originally Posted by Fiyah View Post
We cannot fathom that God can create a rock he can both lift and cannot lift...
Yes its an age old question, 2500 years in the making, lol. But, can the two things co-exits: being able and not being able?

But there's a simplier question....why does God have to be omnipotent?
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Originally Posted by Hotgirl11226 View Post
Yes its an age old question, 2500 years in the making, lol. But, can the two things co-exits: being able and not being able?

But there's a simplier question....why does God have to be omnipotent?
Well if God is omnipotent then yes... the two can exist for him.

God does not have to be omnipotent... in fact there are alternative theories that view God as somewhat human in that he makes mistakes and we were probably on of them :)
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Originally Posted by Fiyah View Post
But the answer makes sense... God would be able to do something that our feeble minds cannot even imagine.
personal god theory again - I guess it would make sense if you think god is personal.

Impersonal Gods dont necessarily "do" anything
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Originally Posted by Fiyah View Post
Well if God is omnipotent then yes... the two can exist for him.

God does not have to be omnipotent... in fact there are alternative theories that view God as somewhat human in that he makes mistakes and we were probably on of them :)

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Originally Posted by Simon S View Post
personal god theory again - I guess it would make sense if you think god is personal.

Impersonal Gods dont necessarily "do" anything
They might not do anything. But the question is not focused around IF they would do something... but COULD they if they so desired.
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Personal.
You like that word?
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