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G.T. socalova · 04-20-2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by mz_JazE

nope, they're just semi-permanent/rinses...so nothing that will change the structure of your hair like permanent colors.

You sure? Because I find right when I started using the hairline products of Doo Gro, my hair grew and got thicker and healthier looking but my hair became extremely dry and lets not talk about dandruff (well I had the dandruff a lil time before but it only got worse). I blamed it on the Doo Gro because I figured all the ingredients in it to make my hair thicker was also drying it out too....... but after reading this thread and seeing all the comments about keeping your hair moisturized after coloring, it clicked that I did put a Jazzing cherry cola rinse in my hair 2 wks after I first started using Doo Gro.

mz_JazE · 04-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by G.T. socalova

You sure? Because I find right when I started using the hairline products of Doo Gro, my hair grew and got thicker and healthier looking but my hair became extremely dry and lets not talk about dandruff (well I had the dandruff a lil time before but it only got worse). I blamed it on the Doo Gro because I figured all the ingredients in it to make my hair thicker was also drying it out too....... but after reading this thread and seeing all the comments about keeping your hair moisturized after coloring, it clicked that I did put a Jazzing cherry cola rinse in my hair 2 wks after I first started using Doo Gro.

rinses just coat your hair, permanent color actually lifts your hair color using ammonium/ peroxide and then deposits the color of choice. Reason why I usually dye my hair once a year, and if I want a different shade I do a rinse. How were you styling your hair?

G.T. socalova · 04-20-2009, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by mz_JazE

rinses just coat your hair, permanent color actually lifts your hair color using ammonium/ peroxide and then deposits the color of choice. Reason why I usually dye my hair once a year, and if I want a different shade I do a rinse. How were you styling your hair?

Regular wash and set with rollers, rarely used curling irons and stuff but at the time the weather was warming up so maybe it could of been the humidity.

mz_JazE · 04-20-2009, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by G.T. socalova

Regular wash and set with rollers, rarely used curling irons and stuff but at the time the weather was warming up so maybe it could of been the humidity.

maybe, especially if were retouching with the curling iron (humidity can ruin a perfectly good roller set).

southern chic · 04-20-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by mz_JazE

you could always use the aphogee 2-step protein treatment, and they have them at sally's in the one time pack for like $3. I use this Generic Value Products - GVP Hair Reconstructor: Compare to Joico K-Pak as my weekly treatment since I'm transitioning. It's cheaper than the original Joico K-Pak reconstructor, which is over $15 (I end up saving about $10-11). Just make sure to follow up with a good moisturizing conditioner like the hydrating balm (also bought the GVP brand). I did buy the actual Matrix Biolage Hydrating Balm for coarse hair, and it was $18 (yeah never again lol). Now if you want to do it yourself, get some suave humectant conditioner, add a lil' castor oil, and egg you've got a homemade protein conditioner. Have sit for 25 mins with cap under the dryer (or 1hr w/o heat), rinse and follow with a regular rinse out conditioner (or add castor oil let it sit and rinse). Do this like 2x a month, and your hair should be fine within two months. Also did you get a trim?

*I bought this before, and my cosmetologist friend recommends it Aphogee - ApHogee Intensive Two Minute Keratin Reconstructor

thanks!
no I didn't get a trim...I have been thinking about getting one though...should I?

mz_JazE · 04-20-2009, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by southern chic

thanks!
no I didn't get a trim...I have been thinking about getting one though...should I?

no problem

, and yes might as well cut off the parts that are damaged.

Taj · 04-21-2009, 04:58 PM

Ok so ummmmmm

I used the box but ummmmm it only did like 1/2 my hair and the only other box I had was a hot red.....so I put it in anyway from my crown go back.
I kept it on my hair for 1hr and of that hr 20mins below a dryer.
My hair feels okay... not weak but of course drier than before. I deep conditioned it with a heatcat for an hr with Relaxed and natural conditioner hair mask? At that point I but some big twists in my hair and washed out the conditioner with it in that state. I put some oil and Relaxed and Natural Mosturizing Creme in my hair and let it air dry.
Pics are the result of undoing the bigass twists.

Colour kinda mixup and uneven but I can live with it and in some places in the back my roots or entire strands not completely dyed (you can see the jet black) and thats okay with me jus incase my hair start to fall off at least i won't be completely bald

Allyuh think it come out real bright?
I think it look red , some of my friends saying it brown esp to the front.

mz_JazE · 04-21-2009, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Taj

Ok so ummmmmm

I used the box but ummmmm it only did like 1/2 my hair and the only other box I had was a hot red.....so I put it in anyway from my crown go back.
I kept it on my hair for 1hr and of that hr 20mins below a dryer.
My hair feels okay... not weak but of course drier than before. I deep conditioned it with a heatcat for an hr with Relaxed and natural conditioner hair mask? At that point I but some big twists in my hair and washed out the conditioner with it in that state. I put some oil and Relaxed and Natural Mosturizing Creme in my hair and let it air dry.
Pics are the result of undoing the bigass twists.

Colour kinda mixup and uneven but I can live with it and in some places in the back my roots or entire strands not completely dyed (you can see the jet black) and thats okay with me jus incase my hair start to fall off at least i won't be completely bald

Allyuh think it come out real bright?
I think it look red , some of my friends saying it brown esp to the front.

me likey, and it's perfect for your skin tone tajjy! just make sure that you do at least one protein treatment this month (and about 2 months afterwards) you should be fine.

southern chic · 04-22-2009, 08:08 PM

it looks great Taj! my hair is like that color.
anyone kow where I can get castor oil? I got the humectanat shampoo but I can't find castor oil, I checked cvs but they didn't have any.

Libralove83 · 04-22-2009, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Taj

Ok so ummmmmm

I used the box but ummmmm it only did like 1/2 my hair and the only other box I had was a hot red.....so I put it in anyway from my crown go back.
I kept it on my hair for 1hr and of that hr 20mins below a dryer.
My hair feels okay... not weak but of course drier than before. I deep conditioned it with a heatcat for an hr with Relaxed and natural conditioner hair mask? At that point I but some big twists in my hair and washed out the conditioner with it in that state. I put some oil and Relaxed and Natural Mosturizing Creme in my hair and let it air dry.
Pics are the result of undoing the bigass twists.

Colour kinda mixup and uneven but I can live with it and in some places in the back my roots or entire strands not completely dyed (you can see the jet black) and thats okay with me jus incase my hair start to fall off at least i won't be completely bald

Allyuh think it come out real bright?
I think it look red , some of my friends saying it brown esp to the front.

It looks hot Taj!

mz_JazE · 04-22-2009, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by southern chic

it looks great Taj! my hair is like that color.
anyone kow where I can get castor oil? I got the humectanat shampoo but I can't find castor oil, I checked cvs but they didn't have any.

walgreens, wal-mart or target should have them

hold up, you bought the shampoo? did you buy the conditioner?

Taj · 04-23-2009, 01:27 PM

Surprise surprise I went my the asian beauty island by school and they had aphogee products even tho on their site it says only sold at Sallys.
But of course you know skullduggery goin on is a bonus pack 4oz 2step protein treatment 8oz balancing moisturizer for 9.99. I'm sure it was offered free with something else originally and not for resale BUT the price was right and I'll be doing it tonight mz_jaze

Also southern chic I think she may have been recommending the Suave Humectant Conditioner for you to either do a conditioning treatment or try the no-poo (shampoo) method of washing you hair which is just as effective unless you have a lot of dirt. If you have a bed bath and beyond near you I suggest you get it from there cos I was in there the other day and the big bottle was like 1.99 I don't know if thats the regular price but its wayyyyyy cheap and i've heard a lot of girls on the net say they like the conditioner esp for co-washes.

southern chic · 04-23-2009, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by mz_JazE

walgreens, wal-mart or target should have them

hold up, you bought the shampoo? did you buy the conditioner?

yeah i bought both.

what's the no poo thing? just conditioning?

Libralove83 · 04-23-2009, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by southern chic

yeah i bought both.

what's the no poo thing? just conditioning?

yes....washing ur hair with conditioner only "co-wash"

mz_JazE · 04-23-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Taj

Surprise surprise I went my the asian beauty island by school and they had aphogee products even tho on their site it says only sold at Sallys.
But of course you know skullduggery goin on is a bonus pack 4oz 2step protein treatment 8oz balancing moisturizer for 9.99. I'm sure it was offered free with something else originally and not for resale BUT the price was right and I'll be doing it tonight mz_jaze
cool, just making sure my research, and digging my best friend for info doesn't fall on blind eyes (we don't need all of that beautiful hair of your's to fall out)

Also southern chic I think she may have been recommending the Suave Humectant Conditioner for you to either do a conditioning treatment or try the no-poo (shampoo) method of washing you hair which is just as effective unless you have a lot of dirt. If you have a bed bath and beyond near you I suggest you get it from there cos I was in there the other day and the big bottle was like 1.99 I don't know if thats the regular price but its wayyyyyy cheap and i've heard a lot of girls on the net say they like the conditioner esp for co-washes.

oh Tajjy you're good! lol

Originally Posted by Libralove83

yes....washing ur hair with conditioner only "co-wash"

Originally Posted by southern chic

yeah i bought both.

what's the no poo thing? just conditioning?

pretty much what Taj and LL83 said, but here's a vid to help you out
*I love the Paramore in the background, but you can still hear what she's trying to explain.*
YouTube - What the Heck is a Cowash???
You can still use the shampoo though, haven't heard anything bad about it.
Black Hair Media Hair Forum: HAS ANYONE TRIED THE NO SHAMPOO METHOD

04-21-2009, 04:58 PM	#37 (permalink)
Taj Sherlock Crescent Hottie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 29,786 Credits: 160,107	Here's how it came out thanks for all the suggestions. Ok so ummmmmm I used the box but ummmmm it only did like 1/2 my hair and the only other box I had was a hot red.....so I put it in anyway from my crown go back. I kept it on my hair for 1hr and of that hr 20mins below a dryer. My hair feels okay... not weak but of course drier than before. I deep conditioned it with a heatcat for an hr with Relaxed and natural conditioner hair mask? At that point I but some big twists in my hair and washed out the conditioner with it in that state. I put some oil and Relaxed and Natural Mosturizing Creme in my hair and let it air dry. Pics are the result of undoing the bigass twists. Colour kinda mixup and uneven but I can live with it and in some places in the back my roots or entire strands not completely dyed (you can see the jet black) and thats okay with me jus incase my hair start to fall off at least i won't be completely bald Allyuh think it come out real bright? I think it look red , some of my friends saying it brown esp to the front. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Life is short. Too young; too soon. Love everyone! be careful of who you pretend to be, you are who you pretend to be - kurt vonnegut "Mommy, stop waking me up for Kindergarten. You don't see me waking you up for work. You do that because you want to." Ahhh, the joys of parenting :-) - RNH (too funny) :

04-22-2009, 08:08 PM	#39 (permalink)
southern chic ste madeline posse! Join Date: May 2005 Location: atlanta Posts: 2,060 Credits: 9,536	it looks great Taj! my hair is like that color. anyone kow where I can get castor oil? I got the humectanat shampoo but I can't find castor oil, I checked cvs but they didn't have any. __________________ Trinidad Posse!

04-23-2009, 01:27 PM	#42 (permalink)
Taj Sherlock Crescent Hottie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 29,786 Credits: 160,107	Surprise surprise I went my the asian beauty island by school and they had aphogee products even tho on their site it says only sold at Sallys. But of course you know skullduggery goin on is a bonus pack 4oz 2step protein treatment 8oz balancing moisturizer for 9.99. I'm sure it was offered free with something else originally and not for resale BUT the price was right and I'll be doing it tonight mz_jaze Also southern chic I think she may have been recommending the Suave Humectant Conditioner for you to either do a conditioning treatment or try the no-poo (shampoo) method of washing you hair which is just as effective unless you have a lot of dirt. If you have a bed bath and beyond near you I suggest you get it from there cos I was in there the other day and the big bottle was like 1.99 I don't know if thats the regular price but its wayyyyyy cheap and i've heard a lot of girls on the net say they like the conditioner esp for co-washes. __________________ Life is short. Too young; too soon. Love everyone! be careful of who you pretend to be, you are who you pretend to be - kurt vonnegut "Mommy, stop waking me up for Kindergarten. You don't see me waking you up for work. You do that because you want to." Ahhh, the joys of parenting :-) - RNH (too funny) :

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