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Old 01-23-2008, 12:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why This Cya Be Considered Another Soca Sub-genre

Toronto-Lime.com - Soca Track 2005
Toronto-Lime.com - Soca Track 2006
Toronto-Lime.com - Soca Track 2007
Toronto-Lime.com - Soca Track 2008

Many many more examples the biggest of which is Destra's "its carnival". Patrice and Machel just came out with a nice one but the same formula. The music is infectious but there is definitely a formula here. But isn't that the case with all the sub-genre in Soca. Why can't this be the emergence of another sub-genre of soca music.

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Here is the thread featuring the newly released song with Patrice and Machel
Roll- MAchel ft. patrice & oil and music-Machel & David Rudder

Once again the formula is the same. The biggest difference is in the melody of each...shouldn't that be enough to distinguish each song from the next.
Why can't this just be considered another sub-genre and free your mind so that you can allow yourself to enjoy them music.
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Destra started it with this:
Toronto-Lime.com - Soca Track
followed the following year by
Toronto-Lime.com - Soca Track
all the way up to today with songs like
Toronto-Lime.com - Soca Track

again very slight changes in the riddim..the real distinguishing feature in these songs is the melody but the formula is the same. Another sub-genre? Why not?
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Me no likey.... (the Patrice and Machel)
It just sounds too much like....well all those songs you listed....
I really think 2K8 is the year that roadmarch will really be a competition....its not going to be a given that the big names gonna take it this year which is a good thing.
As far as a sub genre what would you call it???

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Me no likey.... (the Patrice and Machel)
It just sounds too much like....well all those songs you listed....
I really think 2K8 is the year that roadmarch will really be a competition....its not going to be a given that the big names gonna take it this year which is a good thing.
As far as a sub genre what would you call it???
OH I DUNNO! SOMETHING LIKE POPSOCA OR POPSO!! They all have that pop feel to them.
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OH I DUNNO! SOMETHING LIKE POPSOCA OR POPSO!! They all have that pop feel to them.
POPSO!!?!?!?! people gone back wid that shit??
How about powersoca? Its got that real fast pace.... does that genre already exist?
but on another tip that style your talking about seem to be Kernal specials, not too many other producers making that sound. Maybe we can chalk it up to just being his "signature sound".
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Originally Posted by Rinababy View Post
POPSO!!?!?!?! people gone back wid that shit??
How about powersoca? Its got that real fast pace.... does that genre already exist?
but on another tip that style your talking about seem to be Kernal specials, not too many other producers making that sound. Maybe we can chalk it up to just being his "signature sound".
Nah man...other people doing it to. Its the same formula in the song by Zoela that i posted. Did Kernel produce that song! Its clear in the Kes song. Did Kernel produce that? Its also present in other offerings. It has to start with somebody.
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Originally Posted by dedetriniking View Post
Nah man...other people doing it to. Its the same formula in the song by Zoela that i posted. Did Kernel produce that song! Its clear in the Kes song. Did Kernel produce that? Its also present in other offerings. It has to start with somebody.
Yes..and it start with Kernal Roberts....
look how much success he's had! it makes sense that others will emulate and jump on that band wagon. That is def. Kernal Robert's sound i dont care who else produces it or sings over the track. Kernal brought that sound to the popularity it currenly has.
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Agreed!! Ah like yuh Power Soca suggestion as well.
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**WONDERING if to HELP them out before they DROWN themselves**

What song aryo THINK that KERNEL PRODUCED that led to the STATEMENT it STARTED with him??

I thought KERNEL'S main TALENT/GIFT is as a WRITER?
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Originally Posted by Rinababy View Post
POPSO!!?!?!?! people gone back wid that shit??
How about powersoca? Its got that real fast pace.... does that genre already exist?
but on another tip that style your talking about seem to be Kernal specials, not too many other producers making that sound. Maybe we can chalk it up to just being his "signature sound".
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in soca Monarch the faster songs are called power soca.

dais why dey have groovy and power soca monarch.
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Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA View Post
**WONDERING if to HELP them out before they DROWN themselves**

What song aryo THINK that KERNEL PRODUCED that led to the STATEMENT it STARTED with him??

I thought KERNEL'S main TALENT/GIFT is as a WRITER?
well i won't say started with him but watch the songs he has written from it's carnival to band of the year. same kinda vibe.

but i think he is a producer not sure.
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Originally Posted by Insane Lucian View Post
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in soca Monarch the faster songs are called power soca.

dais why dey have groovy and power soca monarch.
Mannnn, SOMEONE from that SHOW saw we TALKING about the GREAT ZEE created his own SOUND called POWER SOCA....the FOLLOWING YEAR, yuh see the ORGANIZER of the INTERNATIONAL SOCA MONARCH in TRINIDAD calling that show POWER SOCA.

Next thing you know, yuh go hear dem sey ah DEM whey call it so.

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It"s Carnival may have began a trend in Trinidad but wasn't there songs that were similar that before? Songs like Tremble It, Choo Choo, (even Energy from Tonik band from Antigua). It's Carnival had a catchy hook which made it popular. It also incorporated harmonic vocals and electronic guitar...thats nothing new for uptempo music.
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This year so much of the uptempo music from TNT uses melodic phrases from past tunes, its toooo much of a trend.
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