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Old 03-14-2005, 11:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Soca Grammy Hoax????????

No nominees for touted event Soca Grammy hoax!

By Anthony 'LEXO' Alexis (Editor) email: lexo@tntmirror.com
TnT Mirror News, 14 March 2005

THE historic announcement -- a move to finally place soca on the perennial
high-profile Grammy Awards event -- was greeted with unbriddled excitement
and joy sometime last year. Initially, a report in a Caribbean newspaper
published an article saying that a special committee was set up and later
decided to include soca in the 2006 Grammys. This "news" came hard on the
heels of Kevin Lyttle's groundbreaking Billboard chartbuster, Turn Me On,
which still continues to storm global charts.

Hailing from St. Vincent, Lyttle now signed to Atlantic Records, may have
fuelled the still-rising brohaha that soca would get its due accreditation
at the Grammys, based on his phenomenal success on the Billboard chart. But
Sunday PUNCH has learnt that while the "vibes" for including soca in the
Grammys is still bubbling, it will take some time yet before the dream
becomes gilt-edged reality. "There'll be no Grammy Awards for Soca in
2006," top record producer, Carl "Beaver" Henderson responded to a question
posed by Editor, Anthony "Lexo" Alexis.

"Soca in the Grammys is a great thing, but it's not going to happen for
quite some time. We have checked it out with very big people involved with
the awards ceremony and we were told that it's more rumour than fact,"
Beaver revealed.
A source close to the situation told this newspaper: "We need a movement of
soca bards, not one, two or three folks representing TnT. "As it is now,
we'd have no nominees for any Grammy Awards ceremony. "When it is all said
and done, maybe, just maybe, Kevin Lyttle may get 'notice' in the Grammys
because of record units sold from his mega hit, Turn Me On."

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Old 03-15-2005, 09:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You quoting the Punch and the Mirror...???

That is like quoting The Globe and The Enquirer...
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Old 03-15-2005, 09:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by VINCYPOWA
No nominees for touted event Soca Grammy hoax!

By Anthony 'LEXO' Alexis (Editor) email: lexo@tntmirror.com
TnT Mirror News, 14 March 2005

THE historic announcement -- a move to finally place soca on the perennial
high-profile Grammy Awards event -- was greeted with unbriddled excitement
and joy sometime last year. Initially, a report in a Caribbean newspaper
published an article saying that a special committee was set up and later
decided to include soca in the 2006 Grammys. This "news" came hard on the
heels of Kevin Lyttle's groundbreaking Billboard chartbuster, Turn Me On,
which still continues to storm global charts.

Hailing from St. Vincent, Lyttle now signed to Atlantic Records, may have
fuelled the still-rising brohaha that soca would get its due accreditation
at the Grammys, based on his phenomenal success on the Billboard chart. But
Sunday PUNCH has learnt that while the "vibes" for including soca in the
Grammys is still bubbling, it will take some time yet before the dream
becomes gilt-edged reality. "There'll be no Grammy Awards for Soca in
2006," top record producer, Carl "Beaver" Henderson responded to a question
posed by Editor, Anthony "Lexo" Alexis.

"Soca in the Grammys is a great thing, but it's not going to happen for
quite some time. We have checked it out with very big people involved with
the awards ceremony and we were told that it's more rumour than fact,"
Beaver revealed.
A source close to the situation told this newspaper: "We need a movement of
soca bards, not one, two or three folks representing TnT. "As it is now,
we'd have no nominees for any Grammy Awards ceremony. "When it is all said
and done, maybe, just maybe, Kevin Lyttle may get 'notice' in the Grammys
because of record units sold from his mega hit, Turn Me On."

LOL so much for all the wasted arguements in soca chat. Anyway, I won't be surprised because I think it will take a lot more than two people with two hit singles on the billboards for them to even consider being ready to have a soca category by 2006 grammys. Our soca artists need to have more consistency in the entertainment world with record deals/labels and selling more albums before I think it will ever become a reality. In the meantime, you guys should support what we already in place www.socaawards.com
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Old 03-15-2005, 09:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Damn this is de second Punch Quote on here


Anybody have some back up or newly found responses from de grammy committee
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Old 03-15-2005, 09:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 1trini-gyal
Damn this is de second Punch Quote on here


Anybody have some back up or newly found responses from de grammy committee

http://www.grammy.com/about.aspx#contact


Call them or if you know ppl in the industry have them lobby them to place " soca ' on their agenda...

I feel that its about time ppl in the " background ' start treating it as a business not another big fete.

Soca on the World Wide Stage is long over-due.
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Old 03-15-2005, 11:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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well who would have been the nominees?
Rupee? cause he is the only one to bust out in 2004 (mainstream) Wouldnt there have to be more people on the radio and selling albums to have a catergory?
It would be years off in my opinion.
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Old 03-15-2005, 12:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i posted this like a week ago


Im not one to get info from the sunday punch
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Originally Posted by ILanDFnTsY
You quoting the Punch and the Mirror...???

That is like quoting The Globe and The Enquirer...
I was just about to come in here and say:

"I waiting fuh one ah you clowns tuh start posting articles from the National Enquirer"...
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Originally Posted by saveoursoca
well who would have been the nominees?
Rupee? cause he is the only one to bust out in 2004 (mainstream) Wouldnt there have to be more people on the radio and selling albums to have a catergory?
It would be years off in my opinion.
That's what I'm saying. I know alot of people that will be disappointed however they'll be up on the stage saying and the soca 2k6 nominees are ........_______________________________________

Unless some record label plans on signing about 12 new soca artist in the next nine months and they'll all have to drop some platinum/hits.
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Originally Posted by Pebbles362436
That's what I'm saying. I know alot of people that will be disappointed however they'll be up on the stage saying and the soca 2k6 nominees are ........_______________________________________

Unless some record label plans on signing about 12 new soca artist in the next nine months and they'll all have to drop some platinum/hits.


I am surprise that you would say that :

take a look for yourself...

http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/47full.aspx

You don't need to go ' double platinum ' to get a Grammy !


You have numerous fields :

Best Spoken Words

Best Comedy CD

Best Folk...


So don't fall into that...we don't to need to sell a million for Grammy !


But myself and numerous others would like to see Soca Music be Acknowledge on the World’s stage.
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Originally Posted by socapineman
I am surprise that you would say that :

take a look for yourself...

http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/47full.aspx

You don't need to go ' double platinum ' to get a Grammy !


You have numerous fields :

Best Spoken Words

Best Comedy CD

Best Folk...


So don't fall into that...we don't to need to sell a million for Grammy !


But myself and numerous others would like to see Soca Music be Acknowledge on the World’s stage.
I know. I use to be one of the bigger advocates and I had a very clear vision about how to push our culture to the world stage. But I have seen first hand how the entire thing from KL, to soca going mainstream, carnival promotion/marketing etc thing has cause a bunch of additional drama. The entire thing got blown out of proportion and it was spreading like a wild fire out of control for all the wrong reasons. No one knows who's on first and who's on second anymore. Everyone has their own personal agenda's that they are now pushing and people are not working together. Way too many big egos in the industry. It is very ugly and sad just watching sometimes actually. So now I'm just like what is to be will be. Everything happens for a reason and nothing is going to happen before it's due time. When it finally happens however. I don't want it to be because they felt sorry/exploted us in the process or they felt like they needed to do "the right thing" but because we earn the right to be there with the best of them.

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I know. I use to be one of the bigger advocates and I had a very clear vision about how to push our culture to the world stage. But I have seen first hand how the entire thing from KL, to soca going mainstream, carnival promotion/marketing etc thing has cause a bunch of additional drama. The entire thing got blown out of proportion and it was spreading like a wild fire out of control for all the wrong reasons. No one knows who's on first and who's on second anymore. Everyone has their own personal agenda's that they are now pushing and people are not working together. Way too many big egos in the industry. It is very ugly and sad just watching sometimes actually. So now I'm just like what is to be will be. Everything happens for a reason and nothing is going to happen before it's due time. When it finally happens however. I don't want it to be because they felt sorry/exploted us in the process or they felt like they needed to do "the right thing" but because we earn the right to be there with the best of them.




I here you… we can’t lose site of a common goal.

For what you have outlined to some degree it seems like we are defeated…

Yes there are way too many issues to be address.

A summit is needed, way to many greedy ppl in the industry.

Marcus Garvey once stated…you know what, I can’t remember, but it went something like nothing is handed to you without struggle, just look at the black Americans plight in America.

A quick question, why do you and so many trinis feel that if the music ‘ soca ‘ goes mainstream that is the end of soca as we know it ?

Personally, I think that it’s smart to go mainstream, get the attention, the contracts, etc, if that is what it takes…then flip the script …:

By the way I have another tune by the name of “Jump “in Rupees’ case. I would not consider him a sell out as long as he’s doing some of the stuff that got him there.
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Originally Posted by socapineman
I here you… we can’t lose site of a common goal.

For what you have outlined to some degree it seems like we are defeated…

Yes there are way too many issues to be address.

A summit is needed, way to many greedy ppl in the industry.

Marcus Garvey once stated…you know what, I can’t remember, but it went something like nothing is handed to you without struggle, just look at the black Americans plight in America.

A quick question, why do you and so many trinis feel that if the music ‘ soca ‘ goes mainstream that is the end of soca as we know it ?

Personally, I think that it’s smart to go mainstream, get the attention, the contracts, etc, if that is what it takes…then flip the script …:

By the way I have another tune by the name of “Jump “in Rupees’ case. I would not consider him a sell out as long as he’s doing some of the stuff that got him there.
I think that's what a couple of people are doing or planning on doing with the mainstream thing. However, people change when money is involved and nothing is garanteed. Hopefully, it's just to get their foot into the door then they will flip the script back to soca. However, I think some of them still have a lot more work to do. We need to have a lot more structure and more control over several professional finish products. Some people are doing a half ass job and it shows with some things. But we already pay $40+ to go to a concert so if it was to get much bigger I don't know if I'll be willing to pay $75 for a concert to make their industry pimps any richer than they already are. So the next time I see my favorite soca artists they are flossing on MTV cribs and a ego so big that will make me want to the next time I see them during carnival.

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Ill post it again
i dont care for mainstream influence in we ting
and pebbles brought up a good point

Just look at what went on this year

Grammy dont dictate nuttin for we
Never have and never will
plain and simple
it doesnt say who is on top of the soca world
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well who would have been the nominees?
Rupee? cause he is the only one to bust out in 2004 (mainstream) Wouldnt there have to be more people on the radio and selling albums to have a catergory?
It would be years off in my opinion.
Most of the songs and the artists that win at the grammy's are not known or popular, we see the popular ones on the final showcase but that is not the reality.

When the young lady made the proposal all you were hearing is only one country could have the first winner which was rubbish. At the time it was mentioned all of the countries that would have been affected, should have gotten behind it and expanded on the proposal to include all the music of the region and that would have pushed it through fast and swift. There is nothing like numbers to get what you want, but then again we are so fractured in the Caribbean, it is going to take another century for us to get anywhere, because we do not see the bigger picture.
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