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Old 02-16-2012, 08:09 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Ok then bring the proof of Soca before Shorty declared he created the beat!
Listen to the song TODAY by MILO and the KINGS and tell me if that same beat Shorty claimed as SOKAH

BEfore Shorty coined the word SOKAH everyone was calling their music CALYPSO......Like I said before many islands and people were expermenting with CALYPSO at the time(just take a minute an think ....do you really hear all the music that come out of every island(NO) so how would you know what another man was doing or saying back in these times (people of T&T).......SHORTY coined the word SOKAH and no one can take that away from him....but as for SOCA it has to be given to more than one island or person
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:12 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Trinizagada View Post
VP when did I ever insult you here? When did I ever refer to you in an insulting manner? OK, you damn well know, and it has been explained over and over again, that it all started with Indrani and the formula evolved with Endless Vibrations. It was the basis for the change not the final product! There is no indian music in Soca today! I will not refer to you in any derogatory manner but this is so simple to understand.
Mannn, there was NEVER any INDIAN RHYTHMS in SOCA, PERIOD, maybe in SOKAH.

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Listen to the song TODAY by MILO and the KINGS and tell me if that same beat Shorty claimed as SOKAH
Can't you tell the difference between Calypso and Soca?
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:17 PM   #64 (permalink)
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T&T already started, branded and established Soca music long before most of you posting on here were even a thought in your parents mind much less finding out what Soca music was really all about.

So you guys decided to embrace T&T's culture and have fallen in love with our Soca music and now also see it as yours, no problem there as Trinis always love to share our culture and music around!

Soca is Soul of Calypso Calypso/Soca has been played in many islands before SHORTY coined the word.....the problem is that lies before us today is everyone called their music CALYPSO...til the Christopher Columbus of the West Indies aka Shorty coined and named it SOKAH....now if you ask for proof (videos) of what I am saying I can only find music from 1978 and current.....but I can say BUNJI GARLIN has some soca from MILO and THE KINGS on his 2012 music...which was produce back in the late 60's

Now don't get me wrong Shorty gets all the credit for the SOKAH he coined but as for SOCA it's more than one island or person that should get credit for it
Bullocks!!

The word Soca came about because of Shorty! The only reason that Soca is spelt SOCA today rather than SOKAH is because of a misspelling by the T&T media of the word Shorty had come up with for his new brand of calypso music!!

Both words SOCA and SOKAH did not exist until Shorty coined and defined the term and one came as a direct result of the other because of the misspelling!!

Shorty explained that he was happy to go along with the misspelling once people understood what the term stood for and explained it best in this interview but some of allyuh pretending allyuh too dumb to understand:



Many words have been misspelt in the history of Caribbean English and even the word Jouvert is misspelt as Jouvay for example but we all know what it means!

Some folks spell Carnival as Karnaval, another example. The misspelling doesn't take away from what the word stands for nor does it change who originally came up with the word before it was misspelt!

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Listen to the song TODAY by MILO and the KINGS and tell me if that same beat Shorty claimed as SOKAH
No it is not the same beat! Where allyuh fellas come from bwoy!? What is your point!? Yuh not making sense other than yuh eh like the fact that trinis created soca. But yuh having a hard time making cogent points. If yuh cya write it record it and post it on youtube or something...but try to make some sense nah.

Geezuskrist...every knucklehead is an expert of the beginnings of soca music now!
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Mannn, there was NEVER any INDIAN RHYTHMS in SOCA, PERIOD, maybe in SOKAH.

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Yuh back with this nonsense.... I asked you earlier if I ever insulted you here on islandmix because you surely disrespected me for no damn good reason. To have a discussion about a subject is not a problem but to call a person names simply because you have a difference of opinion is simply childish. This is about you and I so don't mention anyone else to bolster your argument.

You and the Indian rhythm thing... we have been through this many times on various threads leading to the same conclusion... it is pointless re-hashing these conversations simply to take up space on islandmix. Socapro did a wonderful job explaining the influence of the Indian Rhythms but it fell on the wayside because you guys don't want to accept the truth.

I have concluded that nothing will change... you have your views and I have my views. I won't disrespect you and call you names because I don't agree with your point of view... You have every right to voice your opinion and I have every right to disagree.

Let us leave it there because you and I both know nothing will change...
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Originally Posted by Trinizagada View Post

Can't you tell the difference between Calypso and Soca?
No they cannot! All these fellas know is that they don't like the idea the TnT created the genre.....outside of that they just thrashing around like netted fish.

One cunumunu posting three pages of disco songs like some crazy lunatic and trying to give the creation to soca musi to disco and the yankees....another fella giving the credit to Eddy Grant....yet another giving the credit to krosfyah. Aye Well yes! Ya gotta love Soca chat oui!
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Originally Posted by MR. MANN View Post
I hear ya don...not trying to fight ya down. just my observation on this site.

It seems as though when people ready to complain bout soca and spew negativity about the genre. Trinidad always gets all the blame.. People from other islands always quick to blame and throw things out there like "big disappontment" towrds Trinidad, when they ready to fight down the music.
All the while u on here claiming how much your islands do for soca, and who born where and who mudder come from where, and how much influence they have over soca. So how come now Trinidad alone is a big disappointment.

It seems like we only good to blame, but let soca get recognition or any type of achievements....Trinidad have nothing to do with dat. Now Everybody now want to claim it!!!


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that is all we good for blame! nothing else...we have no talent and no good music same shit different day here!
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Can't you tell the difference between Calypso and Soca?
That has been my observation that prompted me to start posting on this site!

And many of them who claim to be experts on here can't tell the difference either!! And because they are confused they feel that Trinis (who originated the music and should know better) should join them in their confusion!!

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Originally Posted by Trinizagada View Post

That has been my observation that prompted me to start posting on this site!

And many of them who claim to be experts on here can't tell the difference either!! And because they are confused they feel that Trinis (who originated the music and should know better) should join them in their confusion!!


ORIGINATED my ASS.

I HEARD one of the MEMBERS of HUES CORPORATION is a VINCY.
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No they cannot! All these fellas know is that they don't like the idea the TnT created the genre.....outside of that they just thrashing around like netted fish.

One cunumunu posting three pages of disco songs like some crazy lunatic and trying to give the creation to soca musi to disco and the yankees....another fella giving the credit to Eddy Grant....yet another giving the credit to krosfyah. Aye Well yes! Ya gotta love Soca chat oui!
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Originally Posted by Trinizagada View Post
Yuh back with this nonsense.... I asked you earlier if I ever insulted you here on islandmix because you surely disrespected me for no damn good reason. To have a discussion about a subject is not a problem but to call a person names simply because you have a difference of opinion is simply childish. This is about you and I so don't mention anyone else to bolster your argument.

You and the Indian rhythm thing... we have been through this many times on various threads leading to the same conclusion... it is pointless re-hashing these conversations simply to take up space on islandmix. Socapro did a wonderful job explaining the influence of the Indian Rhythms but it fell on the wayside because you guys don't want to accept the truth.

I have concluded that nothing will change... you have your views and I have my views. I won't disrespect you and call you names because I don't agree with your point of view... You have every right to voice your opinion and I have every right to disagree.

Let us leave it there because you and I both know nothing will change...

Aye aye ....watch it gazada. If you doh wah call him an arse that doh mean others childish for calling him an arse.

What yuh call a bucktooth mammal that brays incessantly, Shakespeare?

Plus its much more fun than the civilize proper banter than you've been trying to elicit from someone who clearly hasn't evolved to that level !
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ORIGINATED my ASS.

I HEARD one of the MEMBERS of HUES CORPORATION is a VINCY.
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Originally Posted by dedetriniking View Post

Aye aye ....watch it gazada. If you doh wah call him an arse that doh mean others childish for calling him an arse.

What yuh call a bucktooth mammal that brays incessantly, Shakespeare?

Plus its much more fun than the civilize proper banter than you've been trying to elicit from someone who clearly hasn't evolved to that level !
Ha ha ha ... Ok Bro!
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ORIGINATED my ASS.

I HEARD one of the MEMBERS of HUES CORPORATION is a VINCY.
So now we know why you lay claim to the Hughes Corporation.... could be a Vincy involved eh... please just accept the truth... and stop using the work Soca or Sokah.... Trinis coined those words... now go and name your music.. see if you will get anywhere. Yuh could run buh yuh cyar hide!
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