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kartelization of soca, and where Machel went wrong in 2012
Looking at most of machel's song this year they are great songs. the problem is he released way to many song in such a short time span. Vybz kartel is known for releasing a new single almost every week, i.e kartelization. He saturates the Dancehall market to remain on top. Personally i don't think this can work in Soca, especially when there is competition involved. songs like vybes cyah done, represent, mr. fete, etc are all good songs. The problem is when u trying to enter a competition you have no idea which song to push most. Your songs end up being watered down, and diluted because the fans are briefly hearing it. In addition when your songs are on riddims, it also dilutes the song. All the riddims machel's on this year, the other artist on those riddims got bigger leverage than he did. In my opinion bachannalist is just a clone of wotless; don't get me wrong it is a awesome tune, but personally i like vybes cyah done more. its something new and its not the "no pain" to "come to meh" as "bachannalist" to "wotless." ...I hope machel learns from his mistake, cuz i dont think he winning nothing this year.
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Machel contributions taken as a whole...PYF not withstanding...is outstanding this year. Right now i'm counting five of his songs which are definitely on my playlist for this coming summer. I also whole heartedly agree about too many good songs being crammed into this short two month season. It doesn't make sense. A lot of those songs will get ignored despite the fact that they are good songs....and i'm talking about trini soca as a whole. People must have enough courage to start releasing songs in April and August as well. |
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yes PYF was the only shit tune...every other i thought was good. in fact i think his album is going to be awesome. In terms of number of hit song this year i have to give it to him and bunji. I look forward to both their albums.
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The problem with us is that so many of us are caught up with our seasonal carnival mentality that we can’t see that some of these great songs by Machel are designed to be played all year round and will be played by DJs like myself once carnival is over if we have any ambition and want to support good music!! This is why I have to laugh at folks who keep crying about PYF and even the video! The man already has another great uptempo song in "Revelling" and his album will be one of the best to hit the street for years but men still sitting there and criticising!! I just waiting for PYF to win SM or RM to hold my belly and laugh at some of you folks on this site who have been trying to condemn MM for one song when he has so many other great songs out this year!! All I have to say is good going Machel and keep doing your thing!! ![]() __________________ Aka Soca PhD your no.1 Soca music "Edutainer" Catch me Every Saturday 2-4pm GMT from London On www.GenesisRadio.co.uk (96.6FM) www.facebook.com/socaphd www.twitter.com/socaphd email: projampro@yahoo.co.uk Hailing from Trinidad & Tobago and very proud of it!! Land of Calypso, Steelband, Limbo, Parang, Rapso, Chutney, Soca, Jamoo, Panjazz & the Original Best & Most Famous Caribbean Carnival in the World with no apology! ![]() Together We Aspire & Together We Achieve!! Last edited by Socapro; 02-07-2012 at 10:24 PM.. |
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But that one shit tune is over shadowing the other tunes, cuz machel is pushing it the most.
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A man must not push his competition song and he had one which was not better that helped him win $2 million plus T&T road march last year!! Well I tell you!! ![]() __________________ Aka Soca PhD your no.1 Soca music "Edutainer" Catch me Every Saturday 2-4pm GMT from London On www.GenesisRadio.co.uk (96.6FM) www.facebook.com/socaphd www.twitter.com/socaphd email: projampro@yahoo.co.uk Hailing from Trinidad & Tobago and very proud of it!! Land of Calypso, Steelband, Limbo, Parang, Rapso, Chutney, Soca, Jamoo, Panjazz & the Original Best & Most Famous Caribbean Carnival in the World with no apology! ![]() Together We Aspire & Together We Achieve!! |
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In my opinion "Advantage" is no better musically and as a song than PYF, but the main advantage "Advantage" had last year over other songs was timing and topic with the stage coming back and all that after many years of absence! Apart from the topic and great timing to me personally "Advantage" is not much better than "PYF" it at all. As a consequence it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Machel takes both the 2012 SM & RM titles with “PYF” because as everyone has already acknowledged the quality of power soca competition for Machel is relatively weak this year! P.S. Please don't paint me in the same light as VP or I will be forced to stop posting on here to save myself any further embarrassment! ![]() __________________ Aka Soca PhD your no.1 Soca music "Edutainer" Catch me Every Saturday 2-4pm GMT from London On www.GenesisRadio.co.uk (96.6FM) www.facebook.com/socaphd www.twitter.com/socaphd email: projampro@yahoo.co.uk Hailing from Trinidad & Tobago and very proud of it!! Land of Calypso, Steelband, Limbo, Parang, Rapso, Chutney, Soca, Jamoo, Panjazz & the Original Best & Most Famous Caribbean Carnival in the World with no apology! ![]() Together We Aspire & Together We Achieve!! |
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Saying PYF is shit doesn't make it gospel for anyone but yourself, but hey .. if a shit song made so much people get on in fetes then the guy must be doing something right ent? ![]()
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I think Machel should hire Reading Trini to write him ah big soca hit that go win everything for the carnival season, leh we geh couple verses of yuh big soca hit nah RT? leh we hear/see what yuh got.
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well said.......i stand by PYF being Antz reincarnated and the arrogance with pushing both tunes the same way..........maybe he plan to take next year off like he did before
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Promise me one thing, if MM wins either SM or RM with PYF for 2KXII, will you take a year off from posting statements on this forum that could lead to you ending up with cake on your face? ![]() __________________ Aka Soca PhD your no.1 Soca music "Edutainer" Catch me Every Saturday 2-4pm GMT from London On www.GenesisRadio.co.uk (96.6FM) www.facebook.com/socaphd www.twitter.com/socaphd email: projampro@yahoo.co.uk Hailing from Trinidad & Tobago and very proud of it!! Land of Calypso, Steelband, Limbo, Parang, Rapso, Chutney, Soca, Jamoo, Panjazz & the Original Best & Most Famous Caribbean Carnival in the World with no apology! ![]() Together We Aspire & Together We Achieve!! Last edited by Socapro; 02-08-2012 at 06:56 PM.. |
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