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Old 09-27-2005, 01:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by LolaMs
I don't get why the CDC is trying to "strong arm" El A Kru about being on the compilation? They need to come to a reasonable $$ amount considering as El A Kru had the hottest album for Carnival. Futhermore...I agree wid Hector that the "435" burned copies is suspicious considering how/how many cd's were originally produced. Sounds like CDC trying to pull a fast one...I wouldn't be surprised if (with the CDC's involvement)the compilation will mysteriously be bootlegged on selling pon de corner ah Market Street Buoy...nuttn eva easy whey Antiguans cancerned. Please keep updating us Flames 4 life.

@everybody:I am less confused now. Thanks for you allz insight and trying tuh pick sense outta de nonsense dat goin' on between de two groups.
OK here It goes.

I've just listened to an interview on ZDK with the chairman of the CDC and I think the picture is now getting clearer. here are some main points for consideration in this matter as per the chairman:
1) Rohan Hector (the band leader of El A Kru) was the person who was in charge of selecting the songs for the compilation (as he is an employee of the carnival office)

2) CDC assisted El A Kru in bringing in their rented Sound equipment for carnival. they covered the freight charges and other costs to the amount of $10,000.00.

3) El A Kru had also gone to the CDC to get Airline tickets to travel to NY for labor day, and was being granted the use of the terms and conditions afforded the CDC by American airlines where by they would only have to pay 50% of the ticket cost which is EC$7,000.00 for 10 persons travelling. CDC would have then absorbed the other $7,000.00 of the cost.

I think in all of this CDC (thinking as they do) would have thought that since Mr. Hector was the one who compiled the project and based on the level of assistence given to EL A Kru they would have been justified in carrying out the compilation, therefore making El A Kru's bone of contention null and void.

The chairman also stated that both him and Mr Hector are childhood buddies with a 30 yers relationship and it was him Mr. Hector who encouraged him to accept his post as Chairman of CDC. He further stated that it was a matter of SOUR GRAPES as El A Kru was upset after they thought that they should have won the Roadmarch title, an issue which caused them refusing to go on the road for LAst lap.

I think EL A Kru should just bow out gracefully because they got more assistance that I would suppose any other band got from CDC.

O WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE !!!!!!!!
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lady Charmer
Sweetie...One song don't make an album the hottest album...anyways, I say no more on that matter.....


if you think is just a one song...then is obvious you got a bootleg copy of El A Kru's album




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Old 09-27-2005, 01:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by LolaMs
if you think is just a one song...then is obvious you got a bootleg copy of El A Kru's album





Ok lets not get carried away the album had about 3 good songs on it but that still does not make it the best for the carnival. I will say its the best they have done since Lethal Batty.
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Originally Posted by Jameritiguan
OK here It goes.

I've just listened to an interview on ZDK with the chairman of the CDC and I think the picture is now getting clearer. here are some main points for consideration in this matter as per the chairman:
1) Rohan Hector (the band leader of El A Kru) was the person who was in charge of selecting the songs for the compilation (as he is an employee of Cthe carnival office)

2) CDC assisted El A Kru in bringing in their rented Sound equipment for carnival. they covered the freight charges and other costs to the amount of $10,000.00.

3) El A Kru had also gone to the CDC to get Airline tickets to travel to NY for labor day, and was being granted the use of the terms and conditions afforded the CDC by American airlines where by they would only have to pay 50% of the ticket cost which is EC$7,000.00 for 10 persons travelling. CDC would have then absorbed the other $7,000.00 of the cost.

I think in all of this CDC (thinking as they do) would have thought that since Mr. Hector was the one who compiled the project and based on the level of assistence given to EL A Kru they would have been justifies in carrying out the compilation, therefore making El A Kru's bone of contention null and void.

The chairman also stated that both him and Mr Hector are childhood buddies with a 30 yers relationship and it was him Mr. Hector who encouraged him to accept his post as Chairman of CDC. He further stated that it was a metter of SOUR GRAPES as El A Kru was upset after thought that they should have won the Roadmarch title, an issue which caused them refusing to go on the road for LAst lap. I think EL A Kru should just bow out gracefully because they got more assistence that I would suppose any other band got from CDC.

O WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE !!!!!!!!
well well well...yuh can say dat ahgen Jameritiguan. Seems as if de CDC did in fact give El A Kru alot of financial support and that coupled wid having three songs on the compilation...I don't see what else Rohan would want As for the roadmarch title...although I felt "Harder Deah Come" would take it easily cuz it's Flames...I was suprised to see that it only beat out "Another Man" by 10 plays...that too damn close so it could make one wonder. More than likely if roadmarch was an "issue" El A Kru should remember that nationality would also play a part in that too as Naycha is the lead on that song..it's his chune. Chups..well whateva...I don't know..leh de saga of cd's continue.

Thanks for de update Jamtiguan
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:43 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Jameritiguan
Ok lets not get carried away the album had about 3 good songs on it but that still does not make it the best for the carnival. I will say its the best they have done since Lethal Batty.

Aghen Dahlin...yoo like Charms must've gotten a bootleg copy wid on 1-3 good songs cuz ebrybady else me knoh lissen' dat album fram start tuh finish...skippin' no chunes Ok..it is in my opinion that it was the most "thorough" album put out by the various bands...However, ALL of Dadli's artist put forth exceptional efforts this carnival season


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Originally Posted by Jameritiguan
Ok lets not get carried away the album had about 3 good songs on it but that still does not make it the best for the carnival. I will say its the best they have done since Lethal Batty.

Let's see, while home for carnival I heard:
Another Man
Muscle
Maria
Stand Up
Big Up
Lumber
Off Limits

regularly on the radio and in and around Antigua. Regularly. I knew most of the CD b4 I bought it. So apparently y'all in the minority on this one. And they're all good songs.

Guess is y'all opinion....but I eh have a clue as which CD yuh listening to.
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Originally Posted by Jameritiguan
Ok lets not get carried away the album had about 3 good songs on it but that still does not make it the best for the carnival. I will say its the best they have done since Lethal Batty.
I think their album would be considered in the top two for carnival as far as well put together complete albums. The other vote would have went to Taxik.
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by LolaMs
I don't get why the CDC is trying to "strong arm" El A Kru about being on the compilation? They need to come to a reasonable $$ amount considering as El A Kru had the hottest album for Carnival. Futhermore...I agree wid Hector that the "435" burned copies is suspicious considering how/how many cd's were originally produced. Sounds like CDC trying to pull a fast one...I wouldn't be surprised if (with the CDC's involvement)the compilation will mysteriously be bootlegged on selling pon de corner ah Market Street Buoy...nuttn eva easy whey Antiguans cancerned. Please keep updating us Flames 4 life.

@everybody:I am less confused now. Thanks for you allz insight and trying tuh pick sense outta de nonsense dat goin' on between de two groups.
okay, i was trying not to post in here, cuz my latest update was wayy in the beginning of all this mess.

but from my take, Kru was on the compilation. Hector chose the songs etc. All the other artists selected the songs to give the CDC as well. This was all before carnival and popularity of some songs etc.. I believe the original complaint was about the money being paid and the fact that songs blew up and should be paid more etc.

Why is CDC strong armin? cuz it takes money and effort to produce these cd's, and now the compilation should be out and selling bringing them revenue. The whole thing supposta be scrapped and done again cuz a mr hector change he mind an he story. wheeew. okay, i done. i dont know what has transpired after that, so.....
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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OK OK.....

I in de minority....I aint gonna go through this no more, I stand by my earliar statements...

And oh...I happen to own the original CD.

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Originally Posted by yanktiguan
okay, i was trying not to post in here, cuz my latest update was wayy in the beginning of all this mess.

but from my take, Kru was on the compilation. Hector chose the songs etc. All the other artists selected the songs to give the CDC as well. This was all before carnival and popularity of some songs etc.. I believe the original complaint was about the money being paid and the fact that songs blew up and should be paid more etc.

Why is CDC strong armin? cuz it takes money and effort to produce these cd's, and now the compilation should be out and selling bringing them revenue. The whole thing supposta be scrapped and done again cuz a mr hector change he mind an he story. wheeew. okay, i done. i dont know what has transpired after that, so.....
that update has no information as to the EL-A-Kru side of the story. we should be a little less conclusive until their side is heard.

And whatever it costs CDC to produce that CD I am sure it cost El-A-Kru much more to produce theirs. So if it is right for them to use strong arm tactics then it is right for the Kru to be firm with their demands. that is the way negotiations go. Both sides have the right to defend their best interest.

I have asked a couple friends of mine and I was told that
EC$100.00 is a ridiculous offer to make for advance royalties for a song on a compilation.

I have to agree.
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Originally Posted by Flames 4 life
that update has no information as to the EL-A-Kru side of the story. we should be a little less conclusive until their side is heard.

And whatever it costs CDC to produce that CD I am sure it cost El-A-Kru much more to produce theirs. So if it is right for them to use strong arm tactics then it is right for the Kru to be firm with their demands. that is the way negotiations go. Both sides have the right to defend their best interest.

I have asked a couple friends of mine and I was told that
EC$100.00 is a ridiculous offer to make for advance royalties for a song on a compilation.

I have to agree.
I agree as well. and I dont think I posted any opinions in my post. I simply listed what I knew. I dont really have an opinion, cuz just as you said... if the CDC wants to strong arm, then Kru can decide to stand firm. However, why was this agreed upon to begin with? (if that was the case)
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Originally Posted by yanktiguan
I agree as well. and I dont think I posted any opinions in my post. I simply listed what I knew. I dont really have an opinion, cuz just as you said... if the CDC wants to strong arm, then Kru can decide to stand firm. However, why was this agreed upon to begin with? (if that was the case)
From what was read on radio the other morning and this was before Mr. Cochrane was on yesterday, the letter they received stated that the band asked for certain amendments to be made to the contract, and that onnce those amendments were made the contract would be signed. This was the sunday night before J'ouvert morninng. Mr. Cassel never got back to them until the wednesday morning after last lap. He handed a copy of the new license agreement to the
el-a-kru attorney and was told he would get back to him after consulting with the band. Based on the fact that the amendments were made to some of the clauses in the contract and not to all the band decided that it was not acceptable. That answer was given to Cassell the same day.

What is puzzling me and makes me suspicious of Cochranes statements is that he is saying that the roadmarch decision made the discussions sour from the start yet clearly it is stated that negotiationswere going on before that.

No one from the EL-A-KRU was given a chhance to answer any of Mr. Cochranes allegations today or even yesterday.

I know this is not the end of this. I am sure of it.
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And I believe Cochranes statements have made it worse.
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Originally Posted by Flames 4 life
that update has no information as to the EL-A-Kru side of the story. we should be a little less conclusive until their side is heard.

And whatever it costs CDC to produce that CD I am sure it cost El-A-Kru much more to produce theirs. So if it is right for them to use strong arm tactics then it is right for the Kru to be firm with their demands. that is the way negotiations go. Both sides have the right to defend their best interest.

I have asked a couple friends of mine and I was told that
EC$100.00 is a ridiculous offer to make for advance royalties for a song on a compilation.

I have to agree.
Well they certainly did not get EC$100.00 based on what I'm hearing; and most of what the CDC Chairman said was just a comfirmation of what I had already heard. Also, as I see it if they got the EC$10,000.00 for shipping charges, then I can say they got a lot more than EC$100.00 in an advance; which is a hell-of-a-lot more than other artists were offered or even got. Now what I would like is for Rohan to dispute all the allegations made by the Chairman.

Anyway Ah still trying to Behave....how ah doing Lolas & Yanks?
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Originally Posted by Lady Charmer
Well they certainly did not get EC$100.00 based on what I'm hearing; and most of what the CDC Chairman said was just a comfirmation of what I had already heard. Also, as I see it if they got the EC$10,000.00 for shipping charges, then I can say they got a lot more than EC$100.00 in an advance; which is a hell-of-a-lot more than other artists were offered or even got. Now what I would like is for Rohan to dispute all the allegations made by the Chairman.

Anyway Ah still trying to Behave....how ah doing Lolas & Yanks?
yuh doin quite fine... quite fine. keep up de good work.
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