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07-17-2009, 11:32 AM

According to an article by Electronista, Apple has dropped to 5th in US computer sales, citing early reports by IDC.

Apple has shipped 12.4% fewer computers than it did last year, falling to 1.21 million Macs. Its market share will remain the same at 7.6% but will have been eclipsed by Toshiba, which could jump to ship 7.7% of PCs in the US.

The only other firm to lose market share is Dell. If this is correct, it will still have the most US market share at 26.3% but will have shipped 18.9% fewer PCs than it did in spring 2008 and would have shipped just 40,000 more computers than HP at 4.17 million.

In terms of growth. HP's growth is poised to remain flat at 2.3%, but the lack of change was enough for Dell to regain the lead it had lost winter of last year. Acer will have grown the quickest, jumping 51% to reach 2.01 million PCs shipped and 12.6% of the US market.

Overall, the US's computer business shrunk 3% compared to last year. This is less than predicted by the IDC.

In terms of the worldwide market, HP still has the lead, shipping 13.1 million PCs and earning 19.8% of the market, where Dell will have shipped 9.11 million PCs and have 13.7% of the market. Acer, Lenovo and Toshiba will maintain their third, fourth and fifth places with 12.7%, 8.7% and 5.3% respectively.

The Captain · 07-17-2009, 01:35 PM

People can't afford them in this current phase.

Spranga · 07-17-2009, 06:40 PM

good. less swagger jackers

Dr Insane · 07-17-2009, 07:10 PM

apple might rdduce prices

Ent · 07-19-2009, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Ole Murderer

Intersting!
I think it is mostly economics.
Windows computers are cheaper BUT
Apples are better in IMO

. · 08-03-2009, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by The Captain

People can't afford them in this current phase.

correct.
its the economy.

acer is producing a $300 netbook

apple currently cant compete with that
their version of a netbook is nearly $2000...

Spranga · 08-03-2009, 08:40 PM

i need a new macbook
gonna go 13" MBP

TriniTrini · 08-03-2009, 09:00 PM

I figured Dell would be on the top of the list since I saw various articles on its success with sales. Apple always attracted a particular market... they have to see how the rest of the buying public could be attracted to their brand. I wonder where IBM/Lenovo is on the list although their consumers are mostly businesses.

Yankee Doodle · 08-04-2009, 10:39 AM

With pc components so cheap and multiple vendors in the pc market, it's no question that this would eventually happen. Apple has the fanbase. But as people have eluded to, it's just too expensive. All that molded plastic and single vendor for manufacturing and parts makes it too high. People are mostly paying for "Ease of use" and "Being free from viruses" but is that really worth the premium that people are paying.

Yankee Doodle · 08-04-2009, 10:41 AM

[QUOTE=TriniTrini;3250113]I figured Dell would be on the top of the list since I saw various articles on its success with sales. Apple always attracted a particular market... they have to see how the rest of the buying public could be attracted to their brand. I wonder where IBM/Lenovo is on the list although their consumers are mostly businesses.[/QUOTE]

Because those stats include business markets as well and business leases so some of the numbers are skewed. Also that number includes kiosks, point of sale terminals, and workstations. Kind of an unfair comparison because Apple doesn't really compete in some of the same market spaces.

Spranga · 08-04-2009, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Yankee Doodle

With pc components so cheap and multiple vendors in the pc market, it's no question that this would eventually happen. Apple has the fanbase. But as people have eluded to, it's just too expensive. All that molded plastic and single vendor for manufacturing and parts makes it too high. People are mostly paying for "Ease of use" and "Being free from viruses" but is that really worth the premium that people are paying.

sure is. never heard of a mac user going back

Yankee Doodle · 08-04-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bean

sure is. never heard of a mac user going back

Maybe so...for a computer novice I can agree with. But these are the same people who will keep a computer for 8-10 years and not buy another until it dead because they want their complete return on investment.

Spranga · 08-04-2009, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Yankee Doodle

Maybe so...for a computer novice I can agree with. But these are the same people who will keep a computer for 8-10 years and not buy another until it dead because they want their complete return on investment.

I can speak from experience. I also know a bunch of techs who swore to never go back at least for personal use. I say, if you've got the money. why the hell not

Yankee Doodle · 08-04-2009, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bean

I can speak from experience. I also know a bunch of techs who swore to never go back at least for personal use. I say, if you've got the money. why the hell not

To each his or her own. But with how the rankings are now, that tone is beginning to change. Not many people have that type of money to spend. What I am simply saying is that if Apple wants to remain competitive, they will have to find ways to lower cost. It seems like the birth of the iphone has diverted Apple from that path in the computer market. The way it is structured, it's not easy to drive down costs so it will be very interesting to see how they approach this problem (if they even try).

Spranga · 08-04-2009, 01:42 PM

i selfishly actually want less mac owners. i like my difference, and let's not give idle virus makers a reason to develop attacks.

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Yankee Doodle steups... Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Why, yuh comin by?? Posts: 4,657 Credits: 16,320	With pc components so cheap and multiple vendors in the pc market, it's no question that this would eventually happen. Apple has the fanbase. But as people have eluded to, it's just too expensive. All that molded plastic and single vendor for manufacturing and parts makes it too high. People are mostly paying for "Ease of use" and "Being free from viruses" but is that really worth the premium that people are paying.

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Yankee Doodle steups... Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Why, yuh comin by?? Posts: 4,657 Credits: 16,320	[QUOTE=TriniTrini;3250113]I figured Dell would be on the top of the list since I saw various articles on its success with sales. Apple always attracted a particular market... they have to see how the rest of the buying public could be attracted to their brand. I wonder where IBM/Lenovo is on the list although their consumers are mostly businesses.[/QUOTE] Because those stats include business markets as well and business leases so some of the numbers are skewed. Also that number includes kiosks, point of sale terminals, and workstations. Kind of an unfair comparison because Apple doesn't really compete in some of the same market spaces.

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