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    History about the Enchanted Forest: Papa Bois!!

    Papa Bois

    As his name implies, he is the father or protector of the forest and its inhabitants. While more recent folk tales depict him as a fairly benevolent figure, the old stories reveal a being whose vengeance is a thing to be dreaded by hunters. He is sometimes described as a faun-like creature, sometimes as a man, but he roams the forests of Trinidad and Tobago in the form of a large stag (yes, for all who wondered, there are deer on this island that are native to our forests). He protects those in his care from wanton destruction and has been known to take forecful steps to evict, harm, perhaps kill a hunter who had incurred his wrath.

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    Something for Children...Macmillan Books




    The Parrots and Papa Bois


    Lynette Comissiong

    Marcus and Mira fly all over the Talparo forest on a tiny island in the blue Caribbean Sea.

    'Cra-cra-cra-aa. Craa, craa, craa craa', they squawk.

    Everywhere they go all the animals complain about the raucous noise. Yet Mira wants, more than anything else, to sing sweetly like all the other animals. What can she do? Who can help? Surely she can't ask the King of the Forest?

    This is a beautiful retelling of the Caribbean Folk Legend of Papa Bois, King of the Forest. A story which will delight and amuse, and which is perfectly complemented by the wonderful illustrations. This traditional story has been given a fresh lease of life and will entertain today's generation

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    Our folklore is predominantly of African Origin
    Our folklore is predominantly of African origin, flavoured with French and to a lesser degree, Spanish and English influences. In keeping with well-recognized African traits, the picture is full of colour and decorated with a wealth of detail. Religious or semi-religious cults of African origin have undoubtedly contributed much to the Island's folklore; many of the supernatural folklore figures possess characteristics which are identical with those of African deities. Indeed, it is extremely difficult to draw a dividing line between the strictly religious elements and what may be described as "legendary traditions".

    "Papa Bois" is the most widely known of all our folklore characters. He is the old man of the forest and is known by many names, including "Maître Bois" (master of the woods) and "Daddy Bouchon" (hairy man).

    Papa Bois appears in many different forms, sometimes as a deer, or in old ragged clothes, sometimes hairy and though very old, extremely strong and muscular, with cloven hoofs and leaves growing out of his beard. As the guardian of the animals and the custodian of the trees, he is known to sound a cow's horn to warn his friends of the approach of hunters. He doesn't tolerate killing for killing's sake, and the wanton destruction of the forest.

    There are many stories of Papa Bois appearing to hunters. Sometimes he turns into a deer that would lead the men into the deep forest and then he would suddenly resume his true shape, to issue a stern warning and then to vanish, leaving the hunters lost or perhaps compelling them to pay a fine of some sort, such as to marry "Mama Dlo".

    If you should meet with Papa Bois be very polite. "Bon jour, vieux Papa" or "Bon Matin, Maître" should be your greeting. If he pauses to pass the time with you, stay cool, and do not look at his feet.

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    Papa Bois
    The Trinidadian deity Papa Bois (who is also part of the Vodou pantheon) won’t be very pleased with such behavior. As his name suggests, Pap Bois is the protector of the forest and its populace. Recent tales show him as a friendly being, but older tales present him as much more vengeful. Watch for a deer-like creature. Sometimes he also appears as a man. He is known to take forceful measures to evict troublemakers from the forest.

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    PAPA BOIS AND MONKEY TROUBLE (a tale from Trinidad):

    A nice lil story for the kids!





    PAPA BOIS AND MONKEY TROUBLE (a tale from Trinidad)
    Once upon a time a woman called Tee Tee, who was known for her delicious baked goods, prepared 26 loaves of manioc bread and placed them inside a bag to take to market, where she planned to sell them for a pretty price.

    Tee Tee decided she would take the shortcut through the forest, though many people warned her against it. Off she trundled, and she was nearing the far side of the forest when suddenly a figure dashed past her and into the dense brush to her right.

    The figure ran so fast, she barely saw him, but she was certain she spotted the hooves, and yes, she was sure. He'd had a scraggly beard strewn with leaves. That was it, then. She had seen Papa Bois, the legendary protector of the forest, whose feet resembled the hooves of the deer.

    "Help!" Tee Tee screamed, "I'm not here to hunt, Papa Bois," for Papa Bois despised hunters, and everyone knew he would chase them out of the forest and harm them if he must.

    But Tee Tee did not stop with her screams for help. She didn't care to wait to see if Papa Bois was satisfied. No, indeed. Instead she ran as fast as her little legs would carry her, and from the highest treetop, Monkey watched her run.

    "Help!" Tee Tee cried again, "I have trouble."

    Now Monkey was curious. He wondered what this trouble was, for he had not seen Papa Bois. In fact, no one else had. It isn't certain he was there at all.

    "Trouble!" Tee Tee cried again as she tripped on a big root in her path. She fell and scraped her knees and hands and nose, and her bag of breads spilled onto the ground.


    Just as she was reaching to pick them up, she saw a flash of hooves.
    "Trouble!" she cried again, and leaving the breads behind, she fled for home.

    When the forest was quiet again, Monkey scrambled out of his tree and crept carefully toward the breads. He nibbled a little piece. And then he sighed deeply. "Sooo good," he crooned. "Sooo good." And of course he had to taste some more.

    By sundown Monkey had eaten every last crumb and his belly was full, but the next morning he woke up feeling hungry for more. "I must have more trouble," he said, and he scampered toward the village, for that was the direction he saw Tee Tee going the day before.

    He skipped into the first bake shop he saw. "Please, give me some trouble," Monkey said.

    "It's trouble you want, is it?" asked the shopkeeper. He had never liked monkeys one bit. And so he went to the back of his shop, and when he returned, he handed Monkey a great big bag. "Here you go," he said.

    Monkey had no idea that in that bag was one angry wild dog.

    "This trouble is very heavy," Monkey said to himself as he dragged the bag along the road. Now the dog did not like being dragged along a bumpy path, and before long he began to yelp and whine, and then to bark and howl.

    You can be sure that when Papa Bois heard those howls, he came out of hiding, for Papa Bois cannot bear to hear the sound of angry or hurt creatures.

    When he spotted Monkey, he quick as lightning ripped open the bag, and out leaped the hot, snarling dog. That dog looked Monkey right in the eye as if to say, "I'll get you now." And then the dog sprang at him.

    Monkey jumped out of the way so quickly that he lost his balance and went tumbling, head over heels, into the brush, the dog in yelping pursuit. Monkey decided in an instant that he had no more use for trouble, so he dashed as fast as he could to the top of the tallest tree in the forest, and there he has remained ever since.

    Papa Bois just lets him stay up there, and everybody knows that's why Monkey is always chattering away. He's discussing all the trouble he has seen, and now we know why Monkey likes to eat bananas, which grow up high, way up where wild dogs do not roam.

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    Jumbies
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    Miguel Browne

    (c) copyright Miguel Browne

    Yuh remember dem nancy stories dat granny used to tell?
    Dey uses to frighten yuh and make yuh shake like hell.
    Yes dem stories 'bout soucouyant, la diablesse and douen,
    De stories 'bout lagahoo, Papa Bois and de rest of dem.
    But as yuh get older look what yuh gone and do.
    Disco and computer make yuh believe dem stories not true.
    Is de ugly Ninja Turtles, Spiderman and Alf wid he big, big mouth.
    Nowadays is dese characters dat children does talk about.
    But if yuh look around in every nook and cranny,
    In de square, in de car or yuh house yuh sure to find jumbie.
    So if yuh feel it doh have jumble yuh very well lie.
    Listen to mih story and yuh go find out why.

    Now La Diablesse was a woman of de night.
    Leading worthless men over precipice was her delight.
    Wid one good foot and one cow foot she would parade up and down,
    Dealing wid all dem macho men dey have in town.
    But in dese days of technology and plastic surgery
    De foot of de La Diablesse yuh just cah see.
    So La Diablesse doh have to wear long dress to hide she foot again.
    Is mini, short pants and high heels dat does cause dem pain.
    So Port-of-Spain full ah La Diablesse dat looking sexy and slick.
    But many of dem still up to dey dirty tricks.
    Some does tell yuh dey love yuh, yes, dey love yuh bad.
    But is de same thing dey does say to all de men in Trinidad.
    Some does flirt with de boss both night and day.
    So in de end dey does collect two packets of pay.
    Others does even marry yuh wid a well thought out plan,
    To nag yuh, den divorce yuh, and den get all de house and land.
    But some La Diablesse ah tell yuh dey sweet too bad.
    Yes, ...de sweetest La Diablesse are to be found in Trinidad.

    And how many of you had friends dat yuh believe so honest and true?
    But deep down inside dey is really lagahoo.
    Yuh see de lagahoo uses to be a man during de day,
    But in de night he woulda change to a beast to frighten people away.
    "Cast yuh bread upon de ocean," is what de bible say.
    Cast it wid love and it go come back to you some day.
    But ah cast so much bread dat de bakery run out.
    And mih friends cah give mih a crumb to put in mih mouth.
    So yuh friends does drink and lime wid yuh.
    But behind yuh back dey bad-talking yuh.
    And if dey see yuh grass looking green and strong,
    Dey does find every way just to cut it down.
    And doh even beg dem lagahoo for a match,
    'Cause de whole ah town go hear 'bout dat.
    "Every skin teeth is not a laugh," so granny used to say.
    So look out for dem lagahoo every night and day.
    Walk wid yuh dagger to deal wid dem lagahoo,
    And stab dem good before dey stab you.
    And if yuh still believe it really doh have jumbie.
    Look how much things does get thief and yuh sure to see.
    Cars and car tyres does disappear just so.
    Jumbie does break in yuh house and nobody doh know.
    But is only Papa Bois and his little friends,
    Dem unbaptised children granny used to call douens.
    Yuh see Papa Bois doh have no forests to hunt in again.
    So he all about town hunting for a new type of game.
    And de douen foot still pointing in de wrong direction,
    'Cause it should be pointing straight to de police station.
    For a little bit of coke dem douens will thief and lie,
    Cuss dey mudder and kill dey brother just to get a high.
    But is like Papa Bois uncle was once a police,
    'Cause de more dey look is de more dey does thief.
    So when dem jumble raid yuh doh bother to call de police.
    Take my advice and call de exorcist or priest.

    And what about de ball of fire dat does fly through de sky?
    And when it land, it does suck yuh blood dry.
    Well we still have plenty soucouyant in dese lands.
    Dem blood-sucking politicians wid dey crazy plans.
    But whereas long time soucouyant uses to work by night,
    Dese soucouyant does suck even in broad daylight.
    Dey does stand up on platforms saying what dey go do,
    But dey only ambition in life is to get some blood from you.
    And soucouyant doh let one drop of blood go to waste,
    So dey does form unions and goups according to dey taste.
    Some does suck people in corridors again and again.
    Some does look for dey victims in de fields of sugar cane.

    And dese state-of-the art soucouyant good at flying too.
    Dey does fly all over de world wid de money dey take from you.
    Some does fly as far as Africa and come back as a chief.
    Some does fly to Washington looking for financial relief.
    And some soucouyant does argue 'bout dragon and some 'bout dove.
    Some does play wid "flowers" and some wid "one love."

    And jumbies does get together at different times of the year.
    And cause confusion and comess 'cause dey really doh care.
    At Christmas time some does take de form of business men,
    And raise de prices of de goods dat yuh have to buy from dem.
    Some does take dey place in parang band
    And prevent it from singing as best it can.
    And at Carnival time, boy dey does create bacchanal.
    Is jam session and bad results to spoil de festival.
    And Some does throw jumbie beads right inside de band,
    So by October is a set ah pickney and unwanted children.
    And every holiday dey make sure it have accident in town.
    And at Easter and Independence somebody does always drown.
    And some does spread disease, scandal and vice.
    Some does kidnap children and make people take dey life.
    And if all dat wickedness is just not enough,
    Some does write in de newspapers to do dey dirty stuff.

    So it have jumble from Port-of-Spain right up to Toco
    In Arima, Castara, Moruga and San Fernando.
    So when yuh bounce dem up doh look lost.
    Watch dern straight in de face and show dem yuh cross.
    But if dey follow yuh dat aint no fun.
    Put wheels on yuh heels and start to run.


    http://berdina.tripod.com/browneMjumbies.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyEmpress
    Papa Bois

    As his name implies, he is the father or protector of the forest and its inhabitants. While more recent folk tales depict him as a fairly benevolent figure, the old stories reveal a being whose vengeance is a thing to be dreaded by hunters. He is sometimes described as a faun-like creature, sometimes as a man, but he roams the forests of Trinidad and Tobago in the form of a large stag (yes, for all who wondered, there are deer on this island that are native to our forests). He protects those in his care from wanton destruction and has been known to take forecful steps to evict, harm, perhaps kill a hunter who had incurred his wrath.

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    oh so he is an ent from lord of the rings
    Is he name treeberd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saveoursoca
    oh so he is an ent from lord of the rings
    Is he name treeberd?

    Come let me bite you!! lol

    you know who I'm going to tell you who to read dem stories to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyEmpress
    Come let me bite you!! lol

    you know who I'm going to tell you who to read dem stories to!

    yeah I cant wait to read them to her
    just make sure and tell she
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by saveoursoca
    yeah I cant wait to read them to her
    just make sure and tell she
    LOL

    thank you papa... Nothing like sharing these beautiful stories from the Caribbean...

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    but its going to get lost in the whole carnival thing don't u think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sencia


    but its going to get lost in the whole carnival thing don't u think?

    I don't think it's going to get lost... Do you mean the mas' itself will lose it's meaning of the theme or are you talking about the thread itself? I had a few people who asked about it so I thought what a better way to get an understanding but post some literature on it.


    Here check out this document on
    Mama Dis is Mas”: A Historical Overview of the Trinidad Carnival, 1783 – 1900:
    http://www.nalis.gov.tt/carnival/carnival.htm
    (read especially Types of Masquerade)

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    I think that gives plenty of interpretation for the King costume in the Enchanted Forest...let's see what they do with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILanDFnTsY
    I think that gives plenty of interpretation for the King costume in the Enchanted Forest...let's see what they do with it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinibaje


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