free will implies that god creates someone and lets them do what he wants

he doesnt control them

he doesnt know what they will do (and this opens up a can of worms about gods omniscience by the way)

so in my understanding this means that god has created humans as beings that act randomly (since he cant predict their actions)

the important issue here is that they act randomly in relation to choosing salvation or not choosing salvation

this raises a few problems in mine eyes

if t\we are designed to act randomly (by having free will) then no matter WHAT we do, we are doing what we are designed to do

god may not like what his random machines end up doing

but he designed them that way

in fact it would be entirely feasible, given what free will implies, that every single human EVER EVER EVER rejected god and went to hell!

this is what happens when you create us to act randomly (by giving us free will)

so punishing a machine designed to act in a random way is pointless

its doing what it is supposed to do no matter what it does

the converse is that it is not random and that god is controling whoi picks him and who does not, like calvinism or predestination

this might be how things are, but i thin k it is obviously bad because its saying that god creates beings specifically for hell



if you create a bunch of randomly functioning humans, then what would determine why each individual human makes a specific choice?

what would be the difference between me and you?

I say free will cant answer the question

it just says that we can do whatever we want

but why would one of us make a different choice?

why are we different?

and how is it fair that we are punished based on those differences?

i think in the end,

when dealing with the issue of a creator in the god sense, meaning a creator that sets and invents ALL the parameters and possibilities

the idea that he punishes what happens in his creation is pure folly and nonesense!

i know this isnt a world friendly idea

but i think i am right

people compare god to a judge or a father but this is a totally different dynamic and a bad analogy

what do you think?